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AT WAR WITH THE TEACHERS UNIONS: Part 1 - Are You Ready to Enlist and Fight the Great Battle?
DFU | 11-9-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:12 PM PST by doug from upland

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1 posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:14 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Great Stuff, Doug! :) Yahoo!


2 posted on 11/09/2005 4:56:09 PM PST by Alia
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To: doug from upland

public employee unions give campaign contributions directly to those politicans with whom they negotiate their contracts and who vote for the contracts. This is a direct and inherent conflict of interest. It should be prohibited.


3 posted on 11/09/2005 4:57:18 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: doug from upland

First step...

Crack the egg.

Start noting how many teachers are being caught in sexual relations with children. Note how well it worked against the Catholic Church. But in the case of education, you can read articles almost daily of another teacher, be male or female, being caught taking advantage of a minor.

Thats how you begin to crack that egg.

Use the truth.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 4:59:43 PM PST by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: bigsigh

I agree. It is a threat to democracy.


5 posted on 11/09/2005 5:00:20 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: doug from upland

Teachers can leave the nea and join the AAE. http://aaeteachers.org/


6 posted on 11/09/2005 5:04:29 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: doug from upland
These unions are clearly a subsidiary of the DemocRATic Party,

I disagree. The dems are a wholly owned subsidiary of the public employee's unions.

7 posted on 11/09/2005 5:04:41 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

Yes, in future threads, we will be discussing the alternatives for those who want to opt out.


8 posted on 11/09/2005 5:05:45 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, Got your northern flank covered.


9 posted on 11/09/2005 5:11:20 PM PST by TaMoDee
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"Proposition 75 was defeated yesterday in California. The teachers union spent over a hundred million dollars to defeat it.

And this money, I am sure, came right out of teachers pockets!

10 posted on 11/09/2005 5:30:13 PM PST by TheLion
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Evergreen Freedom Foundation is very excited about being FR's partner in this venture. There are some favorable court decisions that are on our side. Now is the time to strike because of so many angry teachers who had money stolen from them to fight a proposition with which they agreed.
11 posted on 11/09/2005 5:30:57 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: TheLion

Yes. The union actually went to the bank to borrow more money to fight it. What was the collateral? The paychecks of union members.


12 posted on 11/09/2005 5:33:47 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland

Hopefully, teachers will begin to figure out where their money is going.


13 posted on 11/09/2005 5:35:59 PM PST by TheLion
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To: doug from upland

please, whatever you do, please dont restrict this to just CSTA members, some of us in schools, as in every area of calif govt are forced to join CSEA which spent a ton to defeat the prop as well.

the forms can be adapted for either union.

Cheers,

knews hound

http://knewshound.blogspot.com/


14 posted on 11/09/2005 5:36:16 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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Honest question, I have never worked for a union company and was wondering if you Had to be a teacher to join? Do members get an opportunity to vote on union issues? If so, Why couldn't conservatives pack the membership and affect the direction of union issues?
15 posted on 11/09/2005 5:38:47 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: doug from upland
WAR with teachers Unions.?...

Abosultely NOBODY can whine like a teacher..
They can reduce you to tears in their whinings..
They can whine your wallet right out of you're back pocket..

It an amazing sight to behold..

16 posted on 11/09/2005 5:48:36 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: doug from upland

If succeeding threads ---- should be In succeeding threads...


17 posted on 11/09/2005 5:55:51 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: Boiling point

Members get to vote on issues. Besides teachers, there are some employees such as aides who can join the union. I don't know why conservatives are trying to do more to affect the direction.


18 posted on 11/09/2005 5:57:53 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland

The main reason teachers join the union is for the legal insurance. Teachers fear being sued by parents. When the union rep comes to talk to the faculty at the beginning of the year, that is the main talking point. 'Our lawyers are at your disposal.' 'We will back you in court.' In some states teachers can buy their own liability insurance as a rider on their homeowners policy - for a very few dollars a year. In one state I was told by my insurance agent, "We don't sell liability insurance to our public school teachers. We have an unwritten agreement with the union."


19 posted on 11/09/2005 5:58:51 PM PST by abclily
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To: EdReform

We've spoken about this before, my friend. With angry California teachers, maybe now the time is right.


20 posted on 11/09/2005 5:59:00 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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