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AT WAR WITH THE TEACHERS UNIONS: Part 1 - Are You Ready to Enlist and Fight the Great Battle?
DFU | 11-9-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:12 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: abclily

In the state of Washington, the districts have $1 million protection. The union then provides additional if a judgment against a teacher is above that. Yes, there are other programs.


21 posted on 11/09/2005 6:02:48 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland

$1 million in protection from the union? Or from the district?


22 posted on 11/09/2005 6:05:13 PM PST by abclily
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To: abclily

$1 million from the district.


23 posted on 11/09/2005 6:34:00 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: TheLion


Hundred million dollars on the campaign spent by 292,012 teachers = $342 each,

average salary of CA teacher = $56,283 per year

342$ about 0.6% of a salary is a small price to pay, to guarantees pay increases of greater percentages and tenure for life.

Teachers are not paid a lot, but the waist the education system, and the control over the state budget to waist even more every year without accountability at a time when CA is broke is the problem.

Why do these 292,012 teachers have more power on 50% (going to education) of the state budget than the rest of the 300 million people, who live in the state, That’s 0.1 percent of the people controlling 50% of the budget, and we are supposed to live in a democracy?

http://data1.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/NumTeachCo.asp?cChoice=StateNum&Radio2=T&cYear=1999-00&submit1=Submit

http://www.cde.ca.gov/re/pn/fb/yr05teachsalaries.asp


24 posted on 11/09/2005 8:37:42 PM PST by seastay
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To: seastay

They have more power because their union dues buy the politicians who make the laws that protect the teachers. It's a closed society. The unions will never be broken by new laws - just not going to happen. The only thing that ever makes a union obsolete is competition.


25 posted on 11/10/2005 3:18:25 AM PST by abclily
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To: doug from upland

Now what we need to know is: 1) which major insurance companies do offer liability insurance to school teachers? 2) do they offer it in every state? 3) how many insurance companies have unwritten agreements with the unions not to sell insurance to teachers?
I don't have the time to do the research and gather the stats. Someone else may have the time to do this. It would be a major step in the right direction to compile this information.


26 posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:25 AM PST by abclily
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To: doug from upland
With the religious exemption, ALL OF THEIR DUES will go to a charity.

I wasn't aware of this. Spread the word!

I also can't overstate the benefits of homeschooling. Besides the religious, academic and emotional benefits, homeschooling takes money away from the unions.

27 posted on 11/10/2005 4:49:57 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: baystaterebel
Start noting how many teachers are being caught in sexual relations with children. Note how well it worked against the Catholic Church.

The MSM will bury it. The only way around it is to write letters to your local newspaper. I write letter after letter to our local paper. They're all published. And letters to the editor are the most-read part of the newspaper.

28 posted on 11/10/2005 4:51:45 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: doug from upland

ping to read later


29 posted on 11/10/2005 4:54:19 AM PST by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: seastay
$56,283 per year...

Teachers are not paid a lot,

Huh? That's an anualized salary of at least $70k, plus benefits. I don't know what the deal is in CA, but in RI teachers retire on 4/5 of their salary.

Private school teachers earn about $30k, on average.

The schools exist by and for the teacher unions.

30 posted on 11/10/2005 4:56:26 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: doug from upland
Doug,

The solution is to abolish government's involvement in K-12 schooling.

The following link explains why government schooling is unconstitutional on both the federal and state levels:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

What follows are a few talking points on why I believe government schools are unconstitutional:

Government schools curriculum and policies can NEVER be politically, culturally, or religiously neutral in content or consequences. NEVER. Why? Because childhood education is fundamentally in its very essence the transfer of values from one generation to another.

When a child attends a government school they are taught that the government can and does restrict their free speech, free press, free expression of religion, and free assembly.

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if they refuse to cooperate, government can and DOES send out armed police to force them into centers that restrict their human rights,

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if a citizen refuses to pay for government school human rights abuses, or if the citizen refuses to fund the non-neutral government school political, religious and cultural worldview that armed police can and WILL sell the citizen's home or business at auction. They also are taught that if the citizen resists, he risks prison or death.

Since it is culture, political and religious worldview, and moral and value beliefs that determines curriculum and hundreds of school policies, children learn that government can aim a police gun at them and taxpayers to FORCE the government bureaucrats' worldview on other people's children.

Children also learn in government schools that the biggest political bully gets to decide what is stuffed into the heads of the next generation of voters, judges, lawyers, professionals of all kinds, religious leaders, editors and journalists, university professors, political party leaders, and our government representatives and bureaucrats.

Question: How can any of this be constitutional?

Solution:Remove your child from government school. Privatize universal education.
31 posted on 11/10/2005 5:12:13 AM PST by wintertime
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To: doug from upland
I just checked out the Evergreen Freedom Foundation. Regarding education they are merely committed to imposing their worldview ( by means of government police threat) on other people's children.

Geeze! Some "freedom"!
32 posted on 11/10/2005 5:23:09 AM PST by wintertime
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To: abclily

The insurance question will be an episode in this series coming soon.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 6:47:00 AM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: wintertime
AUTOMATED RESPONSE No. 17

Congratulations. You are receiving an automated response because you have either sent an email to Doug from Upland or responded to him on a FreeRepublic thread. Your statement was so preposterous that Doug from Upland will not take the time to address you personally. At this point, DFU would be saying that he respectfully disagrees. As his computer representative, I don't have to be nice. Pound sand.

34 posted on 11/10/2005 6:53:05 AM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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Part 2 - The Religious Exemption
35 posted on 11/10/2005 8:31:09 AM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland; EdReform; Born Conservative; NYer; Liz; Jay777; onyx; Peach; Alouette; RonDog; ...

BUMP! Please ping!


37 posted on 11/10/2005 11:55:47 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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Some of you on the list may find this of interest.

38 posted on 11/10/2005 12:22:50 PM PST by Born Conservative (The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out - G. Carlin)
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To: wintertime; doug from upland; Born Conservative
"Solution: Remove your child from government school."

That's not a solution. That only helps a little, as in decreasing the brainwashing of ONE child and reducing the empire-building resources of the current oligschoolopolists $30 or so a day in Average Daily Attendance monies.

We the People OWN those schools. We are PAYING EMPLOYEES to operate them CONSTITUTIONALLY. And we are going to take our turf BACK.
39 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:24 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: hosepipe

Abosultely NOBODY can whine like a teacher..
They can reduce you to tears in their whinings..
They can whine your wallet right out of you're back pocket..

I've seen plenty of people in all walks of life that can whine like crazy. It's a societal thing.


40 posted on 11/10/2005 5:02:45 PM PST by moog
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