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Just when you had enough of the Eagles and T.O., here is another article. Actually, I posted this not because of T.O., but what the author says about showboating and being "creative."

First, can someone enlighten me as to what terrible things T.O. said about the Eagles? I keep hearing that he did but nobody says what he said. The impression I get is he had the audacity to criticize McScab.

Bringing me to my second point - McDrab. What makes him so special? It seems to me the NFL has a lot invested in him. I have noticed the last couple years when the NFL runs that little promo spot during games, showing the great players and coaches of the NFL. It ends with a NFL current NFL player running. It use to be the running back from Detroit and then it was Emmitt Smith. No problem with them - they set records and Smith won Championships. However, why McDrab? He's won one championship - the NFC last year - since he has been in. Why not Farve or Brady?

And lastly, the author talks about respecting the game. Hell, these guys coming out of high school do not respect anyone or anything.

1 posted on 11/09/2005 9:59:48 AM PST by 7thson
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The author contradicts himself. How can he be for traditional values and team effort and in the same breath say TO's celebrations were creative and refreshing? The writer makes about as much sense as TO criticizing his teammates, then apologizing, then criticizing them again.


2 posted on 11/09/2005 10:05:11 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: 7thson
First, can someone enlighten me as to what terrible things T.O. said about the Eagles? I keep hearing that he did but nobody says what he said. The impression I get is he had the audacity to criticize McScab.
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Hell, these guys coming out of high school do not respect anyone or anything.

I keep hearing that these guys coming out of high school do not respect anyone or anything, but nobody says what they say/do.

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3 posted on 11/09/2005 10:05:32 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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This one strikes as pretty bizarre also - I haven't been following real closely so I'm not sure what makes Owens a bigger a-hole than anyone else.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 10:06:03 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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I do appreciate the fact that there is still room for creativity and expression. Michael Irvin was the first wide receiver I saw get up and make the first-down expression, and that has since become a popular move. Since then, we've seen player after player do his part to be creative and different.

It's entertainment, not athletic skill, that sells tickets, TV ads, etc. I think the author is going to see more of "stars posturing for the camera" and less of "teams playing football" as the years go by, and there's not much to be done about it.

5 posted on 11/09/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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TO said the Eagles organization was classless, and got in a fist fight with a former Eagles player/ current Eagles front office guy.

I'm with him about showboating. I think the most pathetic example of showboating is when a defensive player makes a big hit on the ball carrier on the wrong side of the first down marker. Nothing sadder in the world than celebrating letting the other team move the chains.

Nobody comes straight out of high school to the NFL, there's a minimum years rule which was challenged in court by Clarette but the NFL found a way to rewrite the rule and avoid the court rulings.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 10:07:01 AM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: 7thson

Um, photos please?

; )


7 posted on 11/09/2005 10:09:53 AM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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Simply, so called pro sports suck. America has become stupid with their glee of such garbage as T.O. demonstrates. Cheerleaders arrested for sexual events in a bar after a game, and a nuddie mag calls! We glorify it. We made it as a society.

You wanna see something truly sick? If you can bear it, watch that movie, I think it is 9mm with Nick Cage in it. My wife and I rented it. We did not know what it was about. It made my wife jump from the chair and run to the bathroom and throw up. I took it out and we immediately returned it. It was garbage. Yet, it is a film about crap that actually goes on in this country. Pure garbage.

We are lost as a society. We praise garbage like T.O., giving him his millions, for what? Playing a stupid high school sports game. What did you get out of it? You team won. You felt good for 15 minutes. T.O. got his millions in contract. Millions from shoes, clothes, cars, truck, McDonald's commercials. You got your 15 minutes of feel good.

The NBA is giving 18/19 year old high school kids who cannot read, write, do simple math, hundreds of thousands of dollars to bounce a basketball. You go to an arena and CHEER a 19 year old. Then you go home and yell at your 18 year old for not cutting the grass. Go figure.

Nope, in my humble opinion, America is sliding down a muddy slope to total ruin and destruction. But, hey, no problem, our team won last night. T.O. got his millions. Koby did not rape the woman, it was consensual sex, even though he was married. Hey, no problem. Marriage vowls are only meant for the moment, he really does love his wife. Respect her, NO, but he still loves her. If he respected her, he would not have screwed the chick in the hotel. But, that is ok, Koby is scoring 35 a game and the Lakers are winning. All is well with the world. Nope, sports suck.

8 posted on 11/09/2005 10:11:10 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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It was all a scam by TO's agent for him to get released from a lousy contract for 2006.

The Player's union told him not to sign it in 2005.

To will play somewhere else next year for more the the Eagles would have paid him in 2006.

9 posted on 11/09/2005 10:12:59 AM PST by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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The question is whether the game is about celebrity or whether it is about winning. The major sports through over the top marketing have created players like Owens. The teams have to look at every player individually and weigh the player's penchant for celebrity against his talent in order to value the player's worth to the team. In Owen's case his talent is great, but he cannot help himself in knowing the media will turn the spotlight on him at his every whim. He is just too full of himself to restrain himself from media attention, so he is really of little value in a team sport.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 10:15:04 AM PST by Biblebelter
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If this guy is so upset about the NFL's loss of tradition, and rookies run amok, he must really hate the NBA.


12 posted on 11/09/2005 10:17:54 AM PST by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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Speaking of no one's being bigger than the game, ESPN Classic reran Rollerball a couple of nights ago.

Great movie.

13 posted on 11/09/2005 10:19:19 AM PST by HIDEK6
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That's all very well and good, but what about my Fantasy Football Team?


15 posted on 11/09/2005 10:26:13 AM PST by gridlock (Remember: Choosy newsies choose Iowahawk!)
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TO made it known that he was ticked off that the Eagles didn't draw special attention to his 100th career touchdown by highlighting it on the scoreboard or something along those lines. But the Eagles team policy is that they don't do that, and most of his touchdowns had come with a different team anyway.


22 posted on 11/09/2005 10:40:27 AM PST by jpl
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27 posted on 11/09/2005 10:47:32 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Oh for heavens' sake. There is absolutely no consistency in who gets to play after infractions, breaking laws, for instance, and over the top criticism of one's teammates.


36 posted on 11/09/2005 11:06:44 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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I do appreciate the fact that there is still room for creativity and expression. Michael Irvin was the first wide receiver I saw get up and make the first-down expression, and that has since become a popular move. Since then, we've seen player after player do his part to be creative and different.

It's not the celebration after scores that bothers me (so much). It's guys jumping up and down and flexing after tackling someone for a six-yard gain, or a guy making a first down who feels we all need to see his individual expression of creativity, that bugs me.

In a slightly different context, I'll just use the famous quote from baseball owner Bill Veeck: "It's not the high price of stardom that bothers me, it's the high price of mediocrity."

As for me, I don't care if Owens sees another NFL field. The game will go on long after he's gone.

41 posted on 11/09/2005 11:38:38 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Inertia. It's not just for breakfast any more.)
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I am convinced that the downfall of T.O. in Philadelphia began with T.O.'s association with (agent) Drew Rosenhaus. ANY longtime Philadelphia Eagles fan could have told those two that going back to the Eagles' organization to "renegotiate" a contract that had just been signed the previous year was a really, REALLY stupid idea - - a complete non-starter, NEVER going to happen.

What I would like to know is how the association between T.O. and Drew Rosenhaus came into being. Did Rosenhaus approach T.O. at some point and whisper in his ear that he could get him a juicier deal? Or did T.O. wake up one morning, decide he didn't have a good enough contract, fire his manager, and then seek out Drew Rosenhaus to approach the Eagles about "renegotiating"?

One thing I know for sure is that Drew Rosenhaus doesn't get a dime unless there is a new contract signed. If it was Rosenhaus who approached T.O. and started him on his road to career suicide, then the rest of the NFL deserves to know just how greedy and incompetent Rosenhaus is. (Of course, T.O. would be complicent in his own downfall by virtue of his own greed and naivette. Could somebody like T.O. really be manipulated by a sleaze like Rosenhaus so easily?)

So anyway, if anybody knows for sure how those two got together, I would love to hear the details.

Regards,
LH


52 posted on 11/10/2005 11:29:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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