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Rioting for Fun And Allah
Chronicles ^ | November 9, 2005 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 11/09/2005 7:27:40 AM PST by Thorin

Rioting for Fun and Allah

I was sitting at my desk about 5:00 pm the 8th, wondering whether to start work on a new project or to pack up a few books and go home for a Martini. The telephone rang. It was a friend who lives in Metz, a long train ride away from Paris, a quiet town without a great deal of either night life or ethnic strife. “I’m looking out my window,” he said, ”watching an apartment building going up in flames. A police helicopter is going back overhead but nothing is being done to stop the rioters.”

I asked him how long the rioting had been going on in Metz. “It’s night after night. Not so bad as in Toulouse or in the Paris suburbs but bad enough.”

I had been watching the news since the disturbances broke out, and on All Saints I noted that of nearly 300 stories on Google mentioning France and Interior Minister Sarkozy, only one was an American reference to the violence—a few seconds on FOX news. When the Washington Post and the New York Times finally made up their minds that the news could not be suppressed—always a painful decision for them to have to make—we quickly learned about French racism and the plight of the poor Arabs and Africans. Time after time on NPR I heard a comparison with America’s own civil rights struggle in the 1960’s. Apparently, people who work for NPR or the Post are under the impression that the Watts riots had something to do with civil rights. Some day they should read Edward Banfield’s The Unheavenly City, particularly the chapter on “Rioting for Fun and Profit.”

If Muslim young men in Paris are rioting, raping, setting buildings and women on for, all for better jobs, what explains their behavior everywhere else in the world? In Egypt, where they riot to protest a secular government. In Pakistan, where they stage cross-border raids into India for the sole purpose of killing non-Muslims. In New Jersey, where they slaughtered an Egyptian Christian family because the father was too critical of Islam and where they went out into the streets to celebrate their victory on September 11.

To take the argument back to the source, how do we explain the actions of Mohamed and his followers, who looted, murdered, and raped their way across Arabia and the Middle East? Yes, it is true, an Islamic state, after a few decades of grotesque brutality, will generally let Christians and Jews alone. They need people to pay the taxes, handle the trade, and staff the bureaucracy—talents that are traditionally hard to find in Islamic states. Naturally, the success of non-Muslims will periodically arouse the righteous indignation of the “youths” who spend their time loafing on street corners, and a pogrom a decade is a small price to pay for living under George Bush’s religion of peace.

In fact, the non-Muslims of France are now experiencing what some of their ancestors endured in the days before Charles Martel beat the Muslims back into Spain. Do not expect French politicians (apart from the “extreme right”) to use such language. PM Sarkazoy, after describing the rioters as scum, now declares his government’s eagerness to promote civil rights. France, like the countries of North America and Western Europe, is a leftist country, where so-called conservatives talk only of free markets, equality, and economic growth. Only a fascist beast like Jean-Marie Le Pen or Charles de Gaulle would waste time talking about the French nation. Nations, in the eyes of liberals—whether of the Marxist or libertarian stripe (not much difference, actually), are an optical illusion. There is no forest, only trees, and if an entire forest of trees were to disappear while they were not looking, then nothing would happen unless they happened to have an investment—political in the case of Marxists, financial in the case of libertarians—in the place.

To make things worse, the Arab youths, as victims of discrimination, are behaving exactly as leftists think they ought to behave. Imagine you are a French intellectual approaching 60, forever dwelling on the glory days of the student riots in which you and your pals burned cars in 1968. Isn’t this the same scenario? Dispossessed people struggling for freedom and dignity?

In a sense, yes. The riots of ‘68 and ’05 are both outbursts of hooliganism that need to be repressed by the most violent means at the French government’s disposal, but there is a difference. The Marxist students believed in the political violence for the sake of revolution; the Islamic youths believe in violence against infidels for its own sake, as a divinely sanctioned method of dealing with pigs and cattle. I have not talked to Jean Raspail in years, but these riots are, in miniature, the unfolding of his scenario in Camp of the Saints: violent and licentious Third-Worlders whose attacks meet with no resistance from the demoralized self-hating West.

At the heart of the problem is not the teachings of a wicked and stupid religion but the stupid leftism—in both Marxist and classical liberal forms. If you do not believe that there is such a thing as societies or nations, that only contract-making individuals matter, then you will not object when your country is flooded with immigrants who bring an alien and hostile religion. Religion is all bunk, after all, so what difference can a few million Muslims make?

Large nation states, it is true, are the constructs of post-Medieval (dare I say post-Christian?) man, and it is more wholesome to feel a deeper allegiance to Brittany than to France, to South Carolina than to the United States. Nonetheless, in the world in which we find ourselves, nation-states are one of the last bulwarks against a globalism that is bent on destroying all distinctions between man and man (to say nothing of man and woman and man and beast). The result will be a world in which there is no place for us, either as Christians or as people of the West, and there is small consolation in the fact that the liberal-libertarians, whose moral, social, and cultural anarchy got this ball rolling, will be among the first to be eliminated.

Even before there was a France, there were Franks. They had stolen Gaul from the Romans fair and square, and they were not going to allow the land that fed their children to be taken away and given to feed the children of aliens. Until the French become Franks once again, until we Americans discover and defend our own identity, you can expect these pathetic hooligans to continue on their path, destroying every symbol of a West they envy and hate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: france; islam; leftism; riots

1 posted on 11/09/2005 7:27:41 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Thorin

Full of excellent zingers, and very much to the point.

"Apparently, people who work for NPR or the Post are under the impression that the Watts riots had something to do with civil rights."

"When the Washington Post and the New York Times finally made up their minds that the news could not be suppressed—always a painful decision for them to have to make. . . ."


2 posted on 11/09/2005 7:34:12 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Thorin

Bump for a good article.


3 posted on 11/09/2005 7:34:19 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: Thorin
"When the Washington Post and the New York Times finally made up their minds that the news could not be suppressed—always a painful decision for them to have to make. . . ."

LOL, sadly. The French press too has tried to suppress it, instead whining about the international press' coverage. It really is amazing...

4 posted on 11/09/2005 7:38:36 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Cicero
Even before there was a France, there were Franks. They had stolen Gaul from the Romans fair and square, and they were not going to allow the land that fed their children to be taken away and given to feed the children of aliens.

Another great line..

5 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:22 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: Cicero

I agree that the rioters must be violently suppressed. In my opinion it has to be done as quickly as possible with a large force which is usually hard to do. I also agree that rioters in general are in it for fun and profit. But I also think that governments create conditions under which people will riot by their anti-growth and welfare-state systems.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 7:41:38 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley
>>>>>But I also think that governments create conditions under which people will riot by their anti-growth and welfare-state systems.

The main contribution of the government to the riots was to have foolishly allowed millions of Third World immigrants to come to France in the first place.

7 posted on 11/09/2005 7:45:52 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin
The main contribution of the government to the riots was to have foolishly allowed millions of Third World immigrants to come to France in the first place.

Well if they didn't have anything to offer but welfare that's for sure.

8 posted on 11/09/2005 7:52:42 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

Yes, at least four major errors:

1. The French are contracepting and aborting themselves into extinction.

2. They bring in hordes of Muslim workers to do the work.

3. They segregate and miseducate these workers and put their children on welfare. And because they are Muslims, these immigrants segregate themselves.

4. When the riots start, the French stand by, gazing in shock, and do nothing.


9 posted on 11/09/2005 7:54:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 6ppc
Nations, in the eyes of liberals—whether of the Marxist or libertarian stripe (not much difference, actually), are an optical illusion. There is no forest, only trees, and if an entire forest of trees were to disappear while they were not looking, then nothing would happen unless they happened to have an investment—political in the case of Marxists, financial in the case of libertarians—in the place

Excellent post! I "used to" think I might me a libertarian, BUT, after reading this post I believe we must retake the Republican Party as the only hope for the future.

10 posted on 11/09/2005 7:55:56 AM PST by EddieB (Be Dilligent...)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Large nation states, it is true, are the constructs of post-Medieval (dare I say post-Christian?) man, and it is more wholesome to feel a deeper allegiance to Brittany than to France, to South Carolina than to the United States. Nonetheless, in the world in which we find ourselves, nation-states are one of the last bulwarks against a globalism that is bent on destroying all distinctions between man and man (to say nothing of man and woman and man and beast). The result will be a world in which there is no place for us, either as Christians or as people of the West, and there is small consolation in the fact that the liberal-libertarians, whose moral, social, and cultural anarchy got this ball rolling, will be among the first to be eliminated.

Brave New World Bump

11 posted on 11/09/2005 9:17:29 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Cicero

.These kids are the community leaders of the future, so they are learning fast about how to get their way. A day will come when they will want everything Christian, European and Western banned. Hah! And the French were so damned concerned about the Americans ruining their culture.


12 posted on 11/09/2005 9:43:53 AM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: A. Pole

Samuel Huntington in his "Clash of Civilizations" provides a different analysis - a measure of unification ["globalization" in imprecise modern parlance] is indeed theoretically possible - up to the level of a single civilization, but not beyond. Whether it is desirable is an open question - precisely because of the "clash" part of the situation.


13 posted on 11/09/2005 9:49:39 AM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

I think 1500 years of history teaches us that Muslims are not assimilable to Western civilization. They go through periods of dormancy, but the basic virus remains and can spring back to life as long as they are Muslims.

The penalty for a Muslim who leaves his faith is death. Islam is a one-way street, designed to devour but never to disgorge.


14 posted on 11/09/2005 10:57:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Thorin

The Right are a fiction, everyone is on the Left.


15 posted on 11/09/2005 11:53:04 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Cicero
I think 1500 years of history teaches us that Muslims are not assimilable to Western civilization.

Precisely. And for large portions of the last 1500 years the two civilizations didn't really interact. While the enlightened, democratic and liberal West prospered in Europe and later America, Islam, backwards and barbaric, continually devolved, miring itself in poverty and ignorance in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Now we live in a global world and these two cultures are clashing in ways not seen since the Crusades. Islam, reeling from an inferiority complex is lashing out at the West, certain in spirit that our wealth is undeserved because we are such a decadent culture of infidels and the world had in fact been promised to them by Allah.

The radicals among them feel that their poverty and powerlessnes is punishment from Allah for succumbing to Western influences and the only way to win back the good graces of Allah is to destroy the West. There are large numbers of young Muslims in France who while wearing hip-hop clothes and listening to rap music agree with this.

16 posted on 11/09/2005 7:05:39 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
There are large numbers of young Muslims in France who while wearing hip-hop clothes and listening to rap music agree with this.

I think so. As I understand it, the nineteen 9/11 hijackers shaved off their beards, visited prostitutes, and did a number of other forbidden things, probably confident that their final act would square things with Allah and earn them their quota of virgins. In fact, the more they succumb to western music and culture, the guiltier they feel, and the angrier they get with us for corrupting them.

17 posted on 11/09/2005 7:15:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Thorin
Google Islamic Finder and discover how many Mosques/Islam Education Centers are close to you. In America they grow in numbers, influence, and power while the White House hosts Ramadan Suppers.

A grinning Trent Lott will appear on Time magazine posed next to Minnie Mouse wearing a Burqa and STILL the secularists, smoking Diversity Dope in their Multicultural Bongs, will tell us the only thing we have to fear is religious extremism from the right.

18 posted on 11/10/2005 5:28:23 AM PST by bornacatholic
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