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To: PatrickHenry

I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.

That's the tack to take in Kansas. That, and an organized group running.

We didn't pay much attention to the campaign in any of the threads I found, but it might be a good idea to track down some of that information and get it to folks in Kansas.


26 posted on 11/09/2005 4:17:06 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.
I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.

It's very difficult to separate the two. If someone of faith sincerely believes in young earth, Noah's Ark, etc., and is also a person of honesty, he won't participate in the nonsense of the ID crowd. Every now and then, such a person shows up in our threads, declares his faith, doesn't lie about the fossil record, doesn't lie about all of science being a homosexual Marxist plot, etc. He says that science is science, but he's sticking with his religious views, and that's that. No lies. No problem.

But the "creation scientists" and their fancy new front organization (currently called ID, but soon to evolve into "sudden emergence theory") are different. There's no honesty in any of them, as we've seen over and over in our threads.

28 posted on 11/09/2005 4:35:41 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: From many - one.
I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.

That's like saying it wasn't presenting crude forgeries as historical documents that got Mary Mapes fired, but rather [rimshot] her political bias. The two aren't really separable -- anyone without her political bias would find the TANG memos about as credible as an attempt to pass off Plan Nine From Outer Space clips as genuine UFO photographs.

93 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:10 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: From many - one.
I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.

You say po-TAY-toe, I say po-TAH-toe...

ID *is* "demonstrated dishonesty".

123 posted on 11/09/2005 8:54:52 AM PST by Ichneumon
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