[PatrickHenry]

I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.

It's very difficult to separate the two. If someone of faith sincerely believes in young earth, Noah's Ark, etc., and is also a person of honesty, he won't participate in the nonsense of the ID crowd. Every now and then, such a person shows up in our threads, declares his faith, doesn't lie about the fossil record, doesn't lie about all of science being a homosexual Marxist plot, etc. He says that science is science, but he's sticking with his religious views, and that's that. No lies. No problem.

But the "creation scientists" and their fancy new front organization (currently called ID, but soon to evolve into "sudden emergence theory") are different. There's no honesty in any of them, as we've seen over and over in our threads.

[From many - one.]

Since so many Americans do believe in special creation, I find it hard to believe they dumped the school board just for supporting it.

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Is that the new manifestation of creationsism? I guess that since ID has been outed as a creationist Trojan Horse, then need a new term. It means they have learned to keep their mouths shut about what it really means so they can credibly argue that "sudden emergence theory" is not creationism. It must be the stategy to get around the wedge document.