Skip to comments.
Dover CARES sweeps election (Intelligent Design loses big)
York Daily Record ^
| 11/9/2005
| Michelle Starr
Posted on 11/08/2005 11:05:11 PM PST by jennyp
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 241-254 next last
21
posted on
11/09/2005 3:25:37 AM PST
by
Junior
(From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
22
posted on
11/09/2005 3:45:31 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
To: jennyp
Great thread, jenny! Sorry it took me so long to ping the list, but I was occupied elsewhere -- on behalf of the Grand Master, whose interests are global.
Now if only the republicans will wake up and see that this ID nonsense is a loser, even in a very conservative community like Dover, we'll all be fine.
Attention Karl Rove: Wanna keep winning elections? Dump ID!
23
posted on
11/09/2005 3:52:18 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
To: jennyp
Another blow to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but we shall rally and storm the Ivory Tower!
Fear our noodly agenda!
24
posted on
11/09/2005 3:52:49 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
To: jennyp
After looking at the numbers, I suspect that the major factors were name recognition and the lying, not creationism.
I, as a teacher in the field, would have no problem with a simple statement to the effect that the tenets of evolution at this time may appear to conflict with some people's religions, but that in this class we are learning what the current views of scientists are.
That is honest and respects the religious concerns, without in any way diluting the science.
I would guess that most people who believe in special creation, unlike those from DI and many of those who promulgate it here, are honest and react badly when the dishonesty is put on display.
To: PatrickHenry
I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty.
That's the tack to take in Kansas. That, and an organized group running.
We didn't pay much attention to the campaign in any of the threads I found, but it might be a good idea to track down some of that information and get it to folks in Kansas.
To: CheyennePress
Really, it's of very little consequence that one tortoise evolved from another after two populations had become isolated from one another.And what is the practical use of knowing about a heliocentric solar system, for anyone not sending a probe to the outer planets?
Useless OUTSIDE of what this tell us of who we are and where we came from.
But that, of course, is one of the primary motivations behind all of human knowledge.
To: From many - one.
I don't think it's ID that got the school board dumped. I suspect very strongly that is is demonstrated dishonesty. It's very difficult to separate the two. If someone of faith sincerely believes in young earth, Noah's Ark, etc., and is also a person of honesty, he won't participate in the nonsense of the ID crowd. Every now and then, such a person shows up in our threads, declares his faith, doesn't lie about the fossil record, doesn't lie about all of science being a homosexual Marxist plot, etc. He says that science is science, but he's sticking with his religious views, and that's that. No lies. No problem.
But the "creation scientists" and their fancy new front organization (currently called ID, but soon to evolve into "sudden emergence theory") are different. There's no honesty in any of them, as we've seen over and over in our threads.
28
posted on
11/09/2005 4:35:41 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
To: jennyp
Christians who CARE should not have their children in public schools. They are amoral, anti-God nurseries for socialism and complete government control, as enumciated so blatantly by the Ninth Circuit Court's ruling that parents have NO authority as to how and when sex education is taught in the public schools.
When Christian parents learn that they are offending the faith of their children, and that Jesus says it would be better for be thrown into the sea, then perhaps they can make the sacrifices necessary to get their Christian children out of the toxic environment of the public schools where the Christian faith is mocked and attacked in some way every day.
To: PatrickHenry
Since so many Americans do believe in special creation, I find it hard to believe they dumped the school board just for supporting it.
To: All
31
posted on
11/09/2005 4:56:41 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
To: LizzieBorden
Intelligent design: a hypothesis.
Evolution: a theory. Scientifically, both belong in the classroom. BUT it should be made clear that the above is the truth. In addition, neither concept has been introduced as a law, according to the scientific method. That should also be made clear.
ID does not even rise to the level of a hypothesis. A hypothesis requires specific testable criteria. ID does not have that. IS is, at best, a philosophical idea and has nothing to do with science.
In science, Laws are essentially another word for theories. For example, Newton's Laws of Motion are the basis for the physics taught in high school. These Laws are flawed and have been disproven by relativity. There is solid, observed evidence that shows Newton's Laws don't work but there is no observed evidence that Evolution doesn't occur. Why are Newton's disproven theories being taught without issue, but Evolution is such a sensitive matter?
32
posted on
11/09/2005 5:09:53 AM PST
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: PatrickHenry
Is that the new manifestation of creationsism? I guess that since ID has been outed as a creationist Trojan Horse, then need a new term. It means they have learned to keep their mouths shut about what it really means so they can credibly argue that "sudden emergence theory" is not creationism. It must be the stategy to get around the wedge document.
33
posted on
11/09/2005 5:16:00 AM PST
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: kittymyrib
When Christian parents learn that they are offending the faith of their children, and that Jesus says it would be better for be thrown into the sea So am I to understand that it is your contention that Jesus teaches that parents should kill their children rather than let them learn about the Theory of Evolution? Or am I misunderstanding you?
To: jennyp
Just get evo out the classroom too, cause science its not.
Wolf
35
posted on
11/09/2005 5:21:55 AM PST
by
RunningWolf
(tag line limbo)
To: Tempest
No....Intelligent design is not a good idea, It' neither fully grounded in religion nor science.....
Religion is a belief, science is a fact.....
No one can take away my beliefs by teaching me science. Some of our most bright and talented scientists are extremely devout.
Theology belongs in the Home and Church. Our schools should continue to try to teach the best science available.
If you're so worried about everyones' soul, try the Catholic Church. Catholic Schools have taught Evolution for years with little angst. The church does not take a hard literal only translation of the bible.
36
posted on
11/09/2005 5:23:28 AM PST
by
nevergore
(“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
To: jennyp
Kansas and Indiana will be next, when votors find out the effect this nonsense will have on their children's college futures.
37
posted on
11/09/2005 5:34:22 AM PST
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: jennyp
Not a big loss in percentage terms. Dave Napierskie, the candidate for a two-year(unexpired) seat on the Board lost by 26 votes 2,516 to 2,542. The three DOVER CARES 2-year candidates got 2,670, 2,658 and 2,623 and three incumbents got 2,545, 2,544 and 2,466. For the 4-year seats Dover CARES 2,754, 2,716, 2,677 AND 2,625. The top incumbent was only 41 votes behind at 2,584. The others got 2,547, 2,526 and 2,469. The media (Our 'YORK DAILY RECTUM') gave that big headline at the top of its page. The teachers held a rally outside the school board meeting Monday to say they weren't ashamed of the union demand for a 19 percent pay raise this year. That issue was beginning to gain traction and I feel the incumbents are a viable opposition, especially when this Pennsylvania State Education Association bought school board (Nearly 5-thousand dollars to Dover CARES) starts up the spending and raising the taxes. Five seats up in two years.
38
posted on
11/09/2005 5:39:12 AM PST
by
Nextrush
(The Soviet Union died, but Robert Mugabe is alive and well.)
To: jennyp
If both sides said this wouldn't affect anything, and democrats won the seats in blue Pennsylvania, where is the big deal?
39
posted on
11/09/2005 5:42:15 AM PST
by
NapkinUser
("It is a damn poor mind indeed which can think of only one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson)
To: jennyp
"ACLU attorney Witold Walczak"
This says a great deal about the case, the election, and the direction of the debate.
40
posted on
11/09/2005 5:45:05 AM PST
by
Pietro
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 241-254 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson
