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Pluralism and tolerance in Islam (Ridiculuos BARF alert)
Daily Times ^ | 11/9/05 | Tassaduq Hussain Jillani

Posted on 11/08/2005 4:40:23 PM PST by voletti

Is Islam accommodative of pluralism? The literal meaning of Islam is peace. When Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) proclaimed his prophet-hood, Jews and Christians were at loggerheads. In this environment of ill-will and polarisation, he preached goodwill and harmony to realise the Divine plan, “Constantly the Quran points out that Muhammad had not come to cancel the older religions, to contradict their prophets or to start a new faith. His message is the same as that of Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, or Jesus.”

The very first verse of Holy Quran ordains that a Muslim is one who believes in all the revealed books i.e. Taurat, Zaboor, Injeel and Holy Quran and their Prophets. “The expansive spirit of the Quran is also reflected in such specific proclamations as ‘to each among you have We prescribed a law and an open way’ (5:51); ‘if God so willed, He could make you all one people’ but He did not (16:93 and 5:51); ‘there is no compulsion in religion’ (2:256); that the Truth has been conveyed and ‘let him who will believe, and let him who will reject [it]’ (18:29) and, finally, that ‘I worship not that which you worship, nor will you worship what I worship. To you be your way, to me mine.’” (109:1-4).

The life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a classic example of tolerance, of pluralism, of love of humanity and of upholding human equality — irrespective of caste, creed or colour. So tolerant was he of other faiths that once as the prayer time came and the Christians of Nijran who were on a visit to Madina had no place of their own to worship he invited them to offer their prayers at Masjid-e-Nabwi.

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I couldn't get past the first freakin' paragraph....Should anybody hv better luck, lemme know...
1 posted on 11/08/2005 4:40:24 PM PST by voletti
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To: voletti

Islam accommodates Dhimmis.


2 posted on 11/08/2005 4:44:05 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: voletti

The guy lies in his very first declarative sentence.

The meaning of Islam is SUBMISSION, not peace.

I suppose that if you submit, you might have peace, but that isn't quite the same thing as tolerance now, is it?


3 posted on 11/08/2005 4:45:18 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: voletti
The life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a classic example of tolerance, of pluralism, of love of humanity and of upholding human equality

There you go again - lying to the "infidels"

4 posted on 11/08/2005 4:46:05 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: voletti

What color is the sky in the world Tassaduq Hussain Jillani
lives in? Clearly, this isn't the same Islam that we have on this planet.


5 posted on 11/08/2005 4:46:37 PM PST by GBA
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To: voletti

The literal meaning of "Islam" is "submission." Anyone who says different is simply a fool or a liar, or both.


6 posted on 11/08/2005 4:47:05 PM PST by mojito
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Friggin' filthy, chicken sh*t liar.

Why can't these a$$ holes be honest about their "faith"?


7 posted on 11/08/2005 4:47:44 PM PST by msf92497 (The most dangerous place to be is in a "mothers" womb.)
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To: voletti

Well, I'm for one, convinced! I was going to go with Scientology this week, but now I'm convinced that islam is the Way. Allahu Fubar!


8 posted on 11/08/2005 4:50:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Well,that's the death of the thread1)
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Is this the same Mohamed who massacred the pagans of Mecca and Medina? His must have been the first empire built on peace then and since....
9 posted on 11/08/2005 4:50:31 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (I hate hippies - Eric Cartman)
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To: msf92497
Goes with the territory. Satan is the prince of lies and these are the Satanic Verses. Men get a pack of virgins when they die for allah, so part of me understands some of the appeal, I guess. But I can't believe that smart women actually fall for any of it. One word says it all: Clitorectomy.
10 posted on 11/08/2005 4:52:02 PM PST by GBA
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To: voletti
Is Islam accommodative of pluralism? The literal meaning of Islam is peace.

I didn't get past the first lie...which occurred with the first statement in the article. Islam means "submission" not peace.

11 posted on 11/08/2005 4:52:39 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Revolting cat!
Damn, just when Zoroastrianism was getting fun, I have to convert agan.

/sighs


12 posted on 11/08/2005 4:53:42 PM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: voletti

It is entirely possible that Mohammed had been sincere when he first began to speak the words that became written in the Koran.

But he was just a man who came into power and was corrupted by power, and who saw a chance to utilize that power for gain.

Many demagogues in history began their path to leadership and power with sincerely held beliefs. Most were corrupted by power.

It is an interesting thing about Jesus that he had within him the ability and the power, and he lived in a time of considerable unrest among the Hebrews - that he could've seized power and been cheered on, and yet he refused temptation. In fact, the Bible makes it a point to tell of how Jesus defied temptation before setting his feet on the path that took him eventually to the cross for our sins.

He was by all measures a remarkable man, and regardless of whether or not you are a secularist or a believer - he is a man that should be honored for his message, because there is much in his teachings for all men (and women) about justice, morality, and righteousness that are worth incorporating into all of our lives.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 4:57:02 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

14 posted on 11/08/2005 5:00:06 PM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: coconutt2000

He was the L. Ron Hubbard of the 13th century


15 posted on 11/08/2005 5:01:28 PM PST by ABN 505
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To: voletti
You're misrepresenting the intent of the author. He's trying to make the point that Islam should be a peaceful and tolerant religion and the militants are perverting it.

Here is a quote from later in the article;

"Scattered across the region are small but deadly assortments of Islamist militants whose narrow and perverse interpretation of the Koran menaces anyone who does not abide by it."

I'm no fan of the tal-i-ban, but we should call a spade a spade and if the author can convince other Muslims that terror is an abomination under the Koran, isn't that a good thing?

We should be supporting these efforts. not kicking them to the curb. Anyone who thinks we can win this war against the terrorists alone and without help from inside the Muslim community is going to get a lot of soldiers killed.
16 posted on 11/08/2005 5:01:47 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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I have a friend who once worked with a guy from Azerbaijan. This former Azerbaijani saw more and more Muslims moved into his town. When the Muslim population was very small they were very nice and cordial. As their numbers grew they became more and more hostile and aggressive. Finally, when critical mass was reached, the Muslims went on the rampage through the town burning down buildings, forcing conversions of any non-Muslims and murdering those that refused. His family literally ran for their lives from the Muslim mob (democracy in action?) down the street. A few of his family members could not run fast enough and their fate is unknown to this day. He was one of the fortunate few to make it.

What happened in Azerbaijan has been happening in Europe. Critical mass has been reached and they are starting their rampage there. When critical mass is reached here in America they will start the burning, the pillaging, the raping, converting, murdering, etc. This is a standard practice of Islam.

The French, the Danes, and others are standing by and watching their country burn down before their eyes. Will America do the same? If our PC government (Fed, State, and local) do the same what will the citizenry do? If we fight back will our government try and stop us from seeing our country destroyed?

FC


17 posted on 11/08/2005 5:09:42 PM PST by FunkyChicken
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To: voletti

Islamic definitions:

Pluralism - we will kill anybody

Tolerance - be our willing slaves and we won't kill you just yet


18 posted on 11/08/2005 5:41:24 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: msf92497
Friggin' filthy, chicken sh*t liar.

Why can't these a$$ holes be honest about their "faith"?

It's part of their religion. It is mandated in the Quran that they lie to unbelievers to gain the upper hand. Look up "taqiyya" and "kitman" for more information. Islam is very dangerous.

19 posted on 11/08/2005 5:50:18 PM PST by thecabal ("Now die monkeys and stop saying Muslims are terrorists,we are peaceful people!")
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To: voletti

NEXT!


20 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:08 PM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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