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Freedom Riders (How motorcyclists won the right to feel the wind in their hair, etc.)
Reason ^ | November 2005 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 11/08/2005 2:51:18 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 11/08/2005 2:51:19 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I always have and will wear a seatbeltm but I'm opposed to it being mandatory. (except -maybe- for children)

I don't ride a motorcycle either, but if someone wants to smash their head on a curb, they should be free to do it in the manner of their choosing.


2 posted on 11/08/2005 3:00:14 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: neverdem
How motorcyclists won the right to feel the wind in their hair

Lots of them these days would have to ride without a shirt to do that. (And let go of the handlebars.)

3 posted on 11/08/2005 3:01:37 PM PST by thulldud (The Democratic military vote is the REAL "Army of One".)
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5 posted on 11/08/2005 3:03:41 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I don't care if they wear a helmet or not, as long as they are not insured by the same company that I am. What really bugs me is when they have NO insurance and my tax dollar go to pay for their care as indigents.

Someone else's liberty to be foolish stops where my financial responsibility for their foolishness starts.


6 posted on 11/08/2005 3:09:23 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: thulldud
Lots of them these days would have to ride without a shirt to do that.

Not if they keep their nostrils to the wind.

7 posted on 11/08/2005 3:09:30 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: neverdem
“Motorcyclists Believe in Freedom”

No, they just believe in a free ride.

9 posted on 11/08/2005 3:13:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: neverdem

Hospitals have a word for them: - Donorbikes.

Head injuries are the leading cause of motorcyclist deaths. If you ride a bike without a helmet, be sure you have that card filled out. A wiser person may benefit.

Mandatory is one thing, stupidity is something else altogether.


10 posted on 11/08/2005 3:14:34 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: neverdem
“Motorcyclists believe in freedom, and we attack anything that is attacking our freedom,”

You're a lot more free wearing a helmet than you are wearing one of these:

Actually, I'm against mandatory helmet or seatbelt laws too. But it's stupid not to wear them.

And while people should be free to do stupid things if they choose, they have no right to do so at my expense, which is what they do when they run up everyone's insurance and medical costs by getting themselves maimed by not wearing appropriate safety gear. I'm against laws requiring wearing such gear, but I'm all for insurance companies refusing to pay coverage for anyone who has an accident while unbuckled or unhelmeted. Have a separate insurance pool for them, and let them pay their own way without dumping it off onto everyone else. Let the market handle it.

11 posted on 11/08/2005 3:15:16 PM PST by Ichneumon
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helmets restrict both vision and hearing ........i am in a state that requires helmets (michigan) so i wear it,but i often ride in ohio (no helmet law)...... i can see and hear other traffic much better without the helmet .........if i ride without a helmet,it is about my life only,unlike abortion (which is about another life) ..........my life,my choice


12 posted on 11/08/2005 3:18:58 PM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: adam_az

Not wearing a helmet or using a seat belt or thinking it's okay to jump off multi-story cliffs, etc., all lead to increased health insurance costs -- plus in essence we all pay when someone chooses to be stupid because IF they live most insurance will not cover the cost of lifetime care and they end up on Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 3:19:14 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: jwpjr

If you want to go there let me ask you a few questions.

Are you overwieght? Do you excercise regularly? Do you wear proper hearing and eye protection when you mow the lawn? Do you always bend your knees when you lift? Is your cholesterol too high? Have you ever smoked? Ever engaged in casual sex with someone you just met?

ALL of those are "risky" activities and have the potential to cause me financial harm, so therefore I DEMAND that you keep yourself healthier.

See how that can go?


14 posted on 11/08/2005 3:20:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: neverdem

I've lived in a couple of states that didn't have helmet laws. Nothing makes me cringe like seeing someone riding without a helmet, wearing only a t-shirt and shorts. But it's their right to be foolish, I suppose.


15 posted on 11/08/2005 3:20:28 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Points well taken. I'm not sure I would equate the examples provided with riding a motorcycle without a helmet though, but I still see where you are going and I agree it deserves careful consideration.


16 posted on 11/08/2005 3:27:54 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: neverdem

Helmet use should be between the rider and his insurance company.


17 posted on 11/08/2005 3:28:53 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: jwpjr

"What really bugs me is when they have NO insurance and my tax dollar go to pay for their care as indigents."


That's not the fault of the fool bouncing his head off of the pavement. That is the fault of voters who want a safety net for everything. Let some people fall on their a**es for a chance. Demand full medical payment with no taxpayer forced charity. You'll see a return to individual responsibility then.


18 posted on 11/08/2005 3:30:11 PM PST by samm1148
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To: Welsh Rabbit

I ride and I'll never get on my bike without a helmet..I spent a year in Arizona (no helmet law) and never went out without mine..but that's my choice..be honest, when someone turns left in front of you with no warning and you're moving at 65 mph, whether or not you're wearing a helmet almost becomes a moot point..


19 posted on 11/08/2005 3:30:54 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: neverdem

We are a Republic, not a democracy, screw the opinion of the majority!
Sorry, if I just gored your ox!
If I choose to test my head against a power pole, it is, after all, my head, and your power pole will clean up fine, next rainy season!


20 posted on 11/08/2005 3:32:01 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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