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Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids
ClickonDetroit ^ | November 8, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/08/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer

Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids

Studies Show Secondhand Smoke Impairs Respiratory Health

POSTED: 11:14 am EST November 8, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Smoky car rides to school may soon be illegal.

Using a lit tobacco product in a vehicle with a person under 18 would be a civil infraction under a bill to be formally introduced Tuesday by Rep. John Moolenaar, spokesman John Whetstone said.

"We've all seen it on our streets and highways, children in the back seat, smokers in the front, and your heart just goes out to those kids," said Moolenaar, R-Midland.

The bill would allow police officers to pull over drivers who are smoking with children in the car, Whetstone said. A fine for the infraction would be set by the courts.

Several studies indicate that secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in adult nonsmokers and impairs the respiratory health of children.

An estimated 150,000 to 300,000 children under 18 months of age get pneumonia or bronchitis every year from breathing secondhand tobacco smoke, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: letthemgetcancer; nannystate; wodlist
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To: Shalom Israel
I'd rather raise my kid on secondhand smoke than secondhand vulgarity.

My old man did both, regularly, and I turned out OK, by most accounts.

241 posted on 11/09/2005 4:04:32 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: sageb1

I like mud :)


242 posted on 11/09/2005 4:34:07 AM PST by Gabz
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To: nopardons

I thought moving away from Delaware would gt me away from the liberals.........but last night's election results proved me to be wrong, SIGH.

You're right - this topic was long ago exhausted, unfortunately the ban-addicts haven't figured that out and so we must continue.


243 posted on 11/09/2005 4:36:28 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Marie
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I just don't believe that it's as common as everyone wants us to think.

I hear you.

244 posted on 11/09/2005 4:37:58 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping. These MI RINOs disgust me!


245 posted on 11/09/2005 4:40:45 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: Borges

I would never even think about smoking in front of a small child unless I offered him or her one first. ;)


246 posted on 11/09/2005 4:44:17 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Calpernia

Of course it will be disputed, everyone knows that smoking causes EVERY disease known to mankind /sarc


247 posted on 11/09/2005 4:48:10 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Taliesan

"This is so obvious as to be beyond debate among civilized people."

Do you support government legislation to support the position you espouse? If so, please define the difference between "civilized people" and "enlightened people." Keep in mind the use of government force being used to push the agenda of the enlightened.


248 posted on 11/09/2005 4:50:55 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: The Foolkiller

You are correct, they are pro-choice on everything from abortion to gay adoption...........but when it comes to tobacco use by adults, they are the total opposite.

Hypocrites.


249 posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:07 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Taliesan

"Good parents do not force their children to breathe smoke."

Please provide to us your full definition of "good parents." That way we will be able to provide to our legislatures a road map to further actions.


250 posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:17 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: Taliesan

(The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)


251 posted on 11/09/2005 4:56:04 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

"Eight Illinoisans DIE of secondhand smoke every day."

Name one.


252 posted on 11/09/2005 4:56:44 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: secret garden
Posting a link to the study is a bit difficult as they never released much more than the abstract.

This LINK has numerous links for articles and information about the study.

Mind you, I am in no way advocating anyone take up the habit, just pointing out that the hysteria of the antis is mostly just smoke and mirrors, and a lot of hot air.

253 posted on 11/09/2005 4:58:03 AM PST by Gabz
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To: GraceCoolidge

Excellent points. Our parents and grandparents didn't need the government to dictate how they raised their children, why is it any different now?


254 posted on 11/09/2005 5:00:11 AM PST by Gabz
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To: bfree

"A simple question, why does anyone with a job still live in Michigan?"

I am looking to leave very soon. You have any ideas?


255 posted on 11/09/2005 5:06:34 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: brwnsuga

Growing up, most of the adults in my life smoked, and they have yet to link chicken pox, the mumps, or scarlet fever to SHS exposure. Other than those childhood diseases my brother and I were rarely if ever sick.

OTOH, I have a niece that was never exposed to SHS and had chronic respiratory and ear infections growing up, she was also a rabid anti-smoker, until she got into her 20s and realized the pack of lies she had been fed by the fanatics.


256 posted on 11/09/2005 5:06:39 AM PST by Gabz
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To: CSM

ALL Rinos disgust me.


257 posted on 11/09/2005 5:12:03 AM PST by Gabz
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To: ShadowDancer
I can and do believe there are parents out there that care more about what suits them than what is best for their children.

Well...I know that my parents would never do anything on purpose to harm their kids.....they gave up ALOT for us kids. You seem to have a big guilt trip about something and are trying to take it out on me somehow.

258 posted on 11/09/2005 5:20:04 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: nopardons
"Is smoking a part of why some people get lung cancer? Sometimes...NOT always!"

Thanks...this was all I was looking for.

259 posted on 11/09/2005 5:21:23 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: GraceCoolidge
Having said that, however, where do you draw the line on government interference?

I agree....the government should just give us the facts and let us decide.....

260 posted on 11/09/2005 5:22:35 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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