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Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids
ClickonDetroit ^ | November 8, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/08/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer

Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids

Studies Show Secondhand Smoke Impairs Respiratory Health

POSTED: 11:14 am EST November 8, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Smoky car rides to school may soon be illegal.

Using a lit tobacco product in a vehicle with a person under 18 would be a civil infraction under a bill to be formally introduced Tuesday by Rep. John Moolenaar, spokesman John Whetstone said.

"We've all seen it on our streets and highways, children in the back seat, smokers in the front, and your heart just goes out to those kids," said Moolenaar, R-Midland.

The bill would allow police officers to pull over drivers who are smoking with children in the car, Whetstone said. A fine for the infraction would be set by the courts.

Several studies indicate that secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in adult nonsmokers and impairs the respiratory health of children.

An estimated 150,000 to 300,000 children under 18 months of age get pneumonia or bronchitis every year from breathing secondhand tobacco smoke, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: letthemgetcancer; nannystate; wodlist
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To: Gabz

Oh, I bet we have some of those "professionals" here too.


201 posted on 11/08/2005 7:44:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Ditter
That's not entirely so. Some people are deathly allergic to some medicines, which they have NEVER been exposed to before. And yes, I can say that, because it shows up in babies, who haven't ever had nor been near those meds, or any other meds at all.
202 posted on 11/08/2005 7:47:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Then there is the dramatic climate/geographical change. This is, for the most part, pollen related

Exactly what happened to me when I moved from NYC to Delaware.......had no clue what was going on, thought I had some kind of a major disease.

It's been an interesting discussion, but this has been a long, and right at the moment unhappy, day and so I will bid you all a fond goodnight. I expect this will get picked back up in the morning :)

203 posted on 11/08/2005 7:48:06 PM PST by Gabz
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To: ShadowDancer
You were a nasty piece back then and a new nic hasn't changed that, pet.

I don't read EVERY thread and neither am I on here all the time. I just happen to know most of the rules here.

Unlike you, I really do have a life and don't have to lie about it.

204 posted on 11/08/2005 7:51:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Ditter

My Friend, I am not arguing with you about your problem with tobacco smoke, please, I hope you understand that.


205 posted on 11/08/2005 7:54:37 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz
You can get the same thing, by moving from city to city. You don't really have to make an extreme type of move at all; though that does make things much worse.

I'm so very sorry that you had an unhappy day.

See you again soon........pleasant dreams.

206 posted on 11/08/2005 7:55:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz

Yes I know that. ;9)


207 posted on 11/08/2005 7:56:04 PM PST by Ditter
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To: sweetliberty

The fix here is simple, go to a flea market purchase a child restraint seat, some baby blankets, and a doll, set them in the back seat, and light up a nice fat stogie, and wait for the cops to pull you over. When enough cops get tired of pulling smokers over with baby dolls in the back seat the stupidity will end.


208 posted on 11/08/2005 7:57:09 PM PST by JABBERBONK (tHe)
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To: nopardons

Probably.


209 posted on 11/08/2005 7:59:42 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Mud is good. :)


210 posted on 11/08/2005 8:02:32 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Gabz

:-)


211 posted on 11/08/2005 8:06:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz

nite, Gabz :)


212 posted on 11/08/2005 8:09:35 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: nopardons

NYC to Dover, Delaware was only 160 miles, not exactly what I would call an extreme move - but for allergy city, it sure was (we won't discuss the supposed culture shock). Where I now live in Virginia is not much better, but of course the climate is the same as Dover, only there is more farm land and forests and I am surrounded by both :)

I'm a conservative living in Virginia and a liberal was just elected Governor - not a good day.............thanks for caring.

I really should hit the sack.

It's been fun talking with you, it's been a while.


213 posted on 11/08/2005 8:13:16 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz
As I said, it really does NOT have to be an extreme move. But the difference in flora and fauna and yucky Liberals, makes the difference. Okay, so the density or not of the damned Liberal population doesn't have anything to do with allergies, but it doesn't help any either.

Sorry about the election results. :-(

Go to bed...this topic was exhausted years ago, long before this thread ever was posted. Try to get a good night's rest.

yes, it's been a while...we were away, TWICE, in a span of two+ months time and I haven't been here all that much, since I've been back.

214 posted on 11/08/2005 8:21:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ShadowDancer
Im good with it!
215 posted on 11/08/2005 8:27:35 PM PST by TheGunny
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To: Calpernia
A bunch of us were following the SARs threads when they were hot topic and there was one that showed people that smoked didn't catch it.

Could you *ping* me to that when you find it?

216 posted on 11/08/2005 8:53:07 PM PST by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!!)
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To: Marie

I will try to look for that article tomorrow. We had a miserable elections night....

Sulking on a NJ Thread.


217 posted on 11/08/2005 8:53:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nopardons
Unlike you, I really do have a life

Repeat that when you're posting at three in the morning. Night, sweet pea.

218 posted on 11/08/2005 9:05:35 PM PST by ShadowDancer (I think I may have the Asian Bird Fru. I mean Flu. (Damn, it's starting already))
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To: Gabz
My friend with asthma still smokes, and in fact will light one when she feels an attack coming on. In the 20 years I've known her, I've never seen her have an attack and she can only remember having one full blown attack in more than 30 years

I knew two folks with asthma who started smoking to stop the attacks.

When my kids were little I was the "sterile" mom. Both my kids had asthma. When I sent them to stay for the summers with their smoking, wood stove burning, dozen cats, play in the hay mound grandma, the asthma would clear up. Within two weeks of coming home, they'd be wheezing again. I started smoking (not related to their health), got a couple of cats, insisted that they go outside and get dirty at least twice a week and stopped bleaching everything. Neither of them ever had another attack.

Same thing happened to my friend's daughter.

About five years ago workers began stuccoing the building I was living in. It took them two months and I had a *horrible* reaction to whatever they were spraying. The doctor was quite close to putting me in the hospital until they were done (we were living in Germany and I really had no other place to go), but they finished up right when we were at the breaking point. Inhalers helped a little. Breathing treatments, steroids, a half dozen other medicines just barely kept me going. But a cigarette... After a cigarette I was clear for a good half hour.

And one more thing... I've known dozens and dozens of smokers. I have never known a smoker who came down with lung cancer. I knew ONE who got emphysema at the age of 89 after smoking 2 packs a day of Camel filterless since he was 9 years old. He quit smoking (due to the illness) and died of a UTI five years later at the age of 94. NINTY FOUR! Crap! I'll take it!

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I just don't believe that it's as common as everyone wants us to think.

219 posted on 11/08/2005 9:09:38 PM PST by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!!)
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To: ShadowDancer
Some people are night owls...that doesn't mean that they don't have a for real life; cupcake.

And, tootsie, some of us have never been banned nor had to change our nics. ;^)

220 posted on 11/08/2005 9:09:52 PM PST by nopardons
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