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DOES KERRY BELIEVE THE 2004 ELECTION WAS STOLEN? (Is it an even or odd day?)
National Review Online's 'The Corner' ^ | 11/8/05 | Byron York

Posted on 11/08/2005 10:58:20 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat

There is an ugly set of accusations and counter-accusations going on between Sen. John Kerry and an author who claims that the 2004 presidential election was stolen. In Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why They'll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them), Mark Crispin Miller argues that a conspiracy of GOP officials, voting-machine companies, and shadowy political operatives created, in the words of Miller's publisher, "a new Republican electoral strategy...not one overwhelming fraud but thousands of little ones" that gave the election to George W. Bush.

Last Friday, Miller took to the left-wing media to announce that John Kerry, who accepted the election results in his November 3, 2004 concession speech, now agrees with Miller that the vote was stolen. Appearing on Pacifica Radio's "Democracy Now!" with host Amy Goodman, Miller said:

"Speaking of John Kerry, I have some news for you. On Friday, this last Friday night, I arranged to meet Senator Kerry at a fundraiser to give him a copy of my book. He told me he now thinks the election was stolen. He said he doesn't believe that he is the person who can go out front on the issue, because of the sour grapes, you know, question. But he said he believes it was stolen. He says he argues about this with his Democratic colleagues on the Hill. He had just had a big fight with Christopher Dodd about it, because he said, you know, "There's this stuff about the voting machines; they’re really questionable." And Dodd was angry. "I don’t want to hear about it," you know, "I looked into it. There’s nothing there.""

Miller breathlessly reported the news on his website with the headline "BREAKING: Kerry now believes the election was stolen." He further explained that, "Kerry's statement was not planned. He did not expect to see me. His sister, Peggy Kerry, purposely invited me to that fundraiser so that I could hand the senator a copy of my book. (She too understands the urgency of getting the top Democrats to push the issue of electoral reform.)"

If true, Miller's revelation would be major news: the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate taking up arms with the small fringe of conspiracy theorists who argue that the election was stolen. The only problem is that Kerry strongly denies it. Another lefty website, RawStory, got in touch with Kerry spokeswoman Jenny Backus, who said:

"I know Mr. Miller is trying to sell his book and he feels passionately about his thesis but his recent statements about his conversation with Senator Kerry are simply not true. The only thing true about his recollection of the conversation is that he gave Senator Kerry a copy of his book."

Miller maintains that his story is accurate, telling RawStory that Backus' comments were "contemptible" and "completely false." On his website, he headlined the story "Kerry goes AWOL again."

I wrote about Miller in The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy. Prior to his crusade to prove that the 2004 election was stolen, he was on a crusade to convince Americans that a powerful, well-organized theocratic movement, fronted by George W. Bush but controlled by a secretive group of right-wing religious figures, is working to establish Biblical law in the United States. Miller wasn't speaking figuratively; he wrote of a Republican-dominated United States in which adultery, for example, is punishable by death by stoning. In his latest book, Miller has combined his two areas of interest, arguing that the election-stealing conspiracy was carried out by Bush-supporting "theocratic militants." In his mind, apparently, it all fits together.

Miller is, by the way, a professor at New York University.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; flipflop; kerrydefeat; psychprojection; redonred
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Hmmm, who to believe, who to believe?
1 posted on 11/08/2005 10:58:22 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Miller is, by the way, a professor at New York University.

Of course he is. This twit couldn't feed himself if he was ever cast out of the cocoon of tenure.
2 posted on 11/08/2005 11:01:00 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

He can believe what he wants. He's the one that tried to steal it and he wasn't successful.


3 posted on 11/08/2005 11:02:37 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

The RATS will never, ever, in a million years go for real voting reform. Half their base votes illegally and real reform would cripple them.


4 posted on 11/08/2005 11:04:39 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
...Miller argues that a conspiracy of GOP officials, voting-machine companies, and shadowy political operatives created... "a new Republican electoral strategy...not one overwhelming fraud but thousands of little ones" that gave the election to George W. Bush.

Really?

WAY TO GO KARL ROVE!!!! THAT's why you guys deserve to be in the White House; You're smarter than the Dems!

5 posted on 11/08/2005 11:04:50 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Kerry now believes the election was stolen

Kerry strongly denies it

I guess he hansn't gotten the flip-flopping out of his system yet.

6 posted on 11/08/2005 11:05:25 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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But he said he believes it was stolen.

Then it MUST BE TRUE!!!!

Good Lord, will this never end? Even Dodd (my great (barf) senator) is telling him to piss off. When you get the smack-down from within your own party, you know it's bad. What a sniveling little weasel.
7 posted on 11/08/2005 11:06:31 AM PST by RedCell
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To: Diddle E. Squat

My hunch is that Kerry, speaking off the record, said something like, "yeah, there was a lot of fraud going on and things might have been different if..." He probably didn't believe it, but you tend to say nice things in private to your supporters, even the whackjobs.


8 posted on 11/08/2005 11:06:33 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Wait a second? You mean that the Global Warming and Hurricane Katrina could have been avoided?!?!?! You mean that New Orleans would not be under tons of water? Our soldiers would be safe at home and Iraq would be the bastion of peace and solidarity in the Middle East? The world would no longer hate us... if Kerry hadn't been railroaded by the Bush Conspiracy Machine?!?!?

Oh, the humanity! What have we done to ourselves?!?! How could we have fallen for it all!?!?

We don't deserve such a great man like Kerry. No my friends. We got what we deserve.


(thank you! I'll be here all week!)


9 posted on 11/08/2005 11:06:59 AM PST by libertarianPA
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To: theDentist
Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why They'll Steal the Next One Too

Oh, please God, I hope so!

10 posted on 11/08/2005 11:07:22 AM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

A professor. At NYU. I'm still struck by the bias shown by people teaching our children and college students.

But, perhaps NYU has hired someone who has opposing views.

In my dreams, at least.


11 posted on 11/08/2005 11:08:19 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

The only 'fraud' that gave the election to President Bush was the fraud of liberalism.


12 posted on 11/08/2005 11:08:33 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Funny to see Jenny Backus as the spokesman for Kerry on this issue, trying to douse the flames of raving leftist lunacy, because I well remember as the frequent TV spokeschick for Algore in the weeks after the 2000 election, Everytime I saw her on TV she was breathlessly trying to create a sense of crisis and pretend that Algore had a case.... she is a vicious airhead twit, but it's nice to see that she gets to try to sound reasonable against the further-left reached of the Demagogic Party!!


13 posted on 11/08/2005 11:09:13 AM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: Diddle E. Squat
" (Is it an even or odd day?)"

On any given day, yes.

14 posted on 11/08/2005 11:09:47 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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Kerry now believes the election was stolen.

Kerry flipped before he flopped.

The real shock of the '04 election isn't that Bush won, but that Kerry came as close as he did.

Dems never acknowledge massive voter fraud in their own precincts. Bill Sammon and John Fund have written about the way Gore in '00, and Dems in general, try to steal elections, and no eyebrow among academia or Pacifica Radio ever gets raised.

15 posted on 11/08/2005 11:11:45 AM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Enchante

Is Jenny Backus the Democrat spokeshussy who doesn't even bother to brush her hair?


16 posted on 11/08/2005 11:11:54 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Their chant:

Bush is dumb.
Quale was/is dumb.
Reagan was dumb.
Eisenhower is only/was a dumb soldier. (after he decided to run as a Repub. instead of a Dim.
All Republicans are dumb.
They also hatched elaborate plots to steal elections in which they left no clues or evidence.
They keep winning elections.



Who's dumb????


17 posted on 11/08/2005 11:12:46 AM PST by right right
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Yah... as if all the illegals that go to the polls by the busload vote republican.


18 posted on 11/08/2005 11:13:01 AM PST by jamesm51
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I can not believe kerry. He called me a baby killer and a war criminal! John Kerry, you are a liar. He said that he would release his military records. Has anyone one seen them yet? Why is it so hard for the military to vote in Florida? Show me some truth John Kerry!!!
19 posted on 11/08/2005 11:13:19 AM PST by mountainlyons (Still angry after all these years!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
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20 posted on 11/08/2005 11:16:21 AM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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