[Tolik]

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[Darnright]

So, the French are looking at a series of secessions within their country. Are we witnessing the first days of civil war, or will the rioting, pardon the pun, burn itself out?

[Sabatier]

"...the right to organize its social, cultural and educational life in accordance with its religious beliefs..."

Which in Islam is the same as its law.

The Muslims want total autonomy.

They're not interested in living under French law,
or Belgian law, or German law, or Israeli law, etc.
Only the law of Islam.

[FlipWilson]

The dam busted. Suddenly there is NO France. Very shortly, Le Pen will actually win an election in France and I predict a civil war that Europe has not seen since the French Revolution. In the end, I forsee mass deportations and some other bad stuff.

The French invited the muslims into their country to fill a labor shortage after WWII. But when their economy hit the skids, it was the native French who got the jobs and they had nothing for the Arabs/Africans. Even worse, they never shut down the flow into the country of Arab/African immigrants.

[CaptainK]

In some parts of France de facto "millet" system is already in place. In these areas all women are obliged to wear the standardized Islamist "hijab" while most men grow their beards to the length prescribed by the sheikhs.

Yesterday, on the various news outlets, I saw a lot of mewing by British pundits about the cause of the unrest. Of course they saw it as failure of the French to not assimilate its foreign populace, discrimination and lack of jobs.

No one seemed to notice that when the agitators were interviewed, there were no women anywhere to be seen. Not on the street, not looking out of windows. The mirror image of every scene you see from the Middle East, where men gather in the thousands while women appear to have vanished from the earth. To the European elites subjugation of women by the Muslims is fine and dandy, just as long as they keep it in the community.

[SlowBoat407]

The problem came when one of the inhabitants, a female busybody, telephoned the police and reported the thieving spree taking place just opposite her building.

Please tell me this was sarcasm.

[eureka!]

Marking for later read....

[Gritty]

France has supported the Palestinian Cause for a good reason - it is looking more like Palestine every day!

[LibFreeUSA]

IF THIS IS TRUE, THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO SEE is the THIS IS PROBLEM...

-"nothing dramatic would have happened as the police have not been present in that suburb for years.

-"The problem came when one of the inhabitants, a female busybody, telephoned the police and reported the thieving spree taking place just opposite her building. The police were thus obliged to do something that meant entering a city that, as noted, had been a no-go area for them. Once the police arrived on the scene the youth, who had been reigning over Clichy pretty unmolested for years, got really angry.

ESSENTIALLLY, THE FRENCH GAVE UP THEIR SOVEREIGNITY "...YEARS AGO"!

[kimosabe31]

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community.

Is it conceivable we may soon see the heads of chirac and villepin mounted on pikes. These two fools are incapable of leadership. If the muslims don't do it, the french may do it themselves.

[frithguild]

France has also lost another powerful mechanism for assimilation: The obligatory military service that was abolished in the 1990s.

These young have not been taught the value of surrender - the third level in the French methodology (First is "Run!", second is "Hide" and fourth is "Collaborate")

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community. That illusion has now been shattered...

I am shocked by this! SHOCKED I tell you!!

[syriacus]

Bands of youths in balaclavas start by setting fire to parked cars, break shop windows with baseball bats, wreck public telephones, and, ransack cinemas, libraries and schools.

Few churches are being torched. Perhaps the fueligans are keeping them available to use for sanctuary.

[layman]

the creation of "a new Andalusia" in which Christians and Muslims would live side by side and cooperate to create a new cultural synthesis

This is naive wishful thinking as are almost all liberal 'solutions'.

[nutmeg]

In some parts of France de facto "millet" system is already in place. In these areas all women are obliged to wear the standardized Islamist "hijab" while most men grow their beards to the length prescribed by the sheikhs. The radicals have managed to chase away French shopkeepers selling wine and alcohol and pork products, forced "places of sin" such as dancing halls, cinemas and theaters to close down and, seized control of much of the local administration often through permeation.

A reporter who spent last weekend in Clichy and its neighboring towns of Bondy, Aulany-sous-Bois and Bobigny heard a single overarching message: The French authorities should keep out!

"All we demand is to be left alone," said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local "emirs" engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheikhs, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community. That illusion has now been shattered and the Chirac administration, already passing through a deepening political crisis, appears to be clueless about how to cope with what the Parisian daily France Soir has called a "ticking time bomb".

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[NRA1995]

What I want to know is, where are those UN troops hiding?

[emiller]

Ebony and i-voryyyyy live together in perfect harmonyyyyyy

[kimosabe31]

Europeans need to wake up!! I believe Americans are waking up. The muslim objective is NOT to become model citizens and loving neighbors. Their objective IS to exploit the liberties of their host countries in order to to subvert and transform host countries into the same kind of islamic S#!THOLE they left behind. Islam is a subhuman demonic cult that should not be tolerated by any civilized society and worthy only of extermination.

[NYer]

It is now clear that a good portion of France's Muslims not only refuse to assimilate into "the superior French culture" but firmly believe that Islam offers the highest forms of life.

This has to be the understatement of the year!! Great article!

Meanwhile, the Muslims have literally surrounded Paris. GMA showed a great graphic this morning of Paris as the core of a charred circle.

[Steve_Seattle]

Actually, the situation in France raises a lot of questions for political and religious minorities in the USA, including political conservatives and traditional Christians who are increasingly at odds with the general trend of national politics, public education, and popular culture. Is what these Muslims are demanding entirely different from what some conservatoves/Christians might someday be tempted to demand for themselves?

Are we in principle opposed to what the Muslims are demanding, or do we oppose them simply because they are Muslims? Do people have a right to live in territories largely segregated along religious lines, and governed according to their religious beliefs? Doesn't that sound something like the founding of the American colonies? Are conservatives really believers in assimilation, or do we value maintaining the distinctive quality of ethnic and religious sub-cultures? Or are we totally reconciled to assimilation and cultural secularism, as long as freedom of worship is maintained? And do we fear Muslims because we [justifiably] think that the next step after they have their own territories is to make them larger, and ultimately to control everything and everyone? Just asking . ..

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

OK. France is lost. Now where do I get a good bottle of wine cheap? Do we have to send our sons to fight and die against the Muslims to ensure a steady flow of French wine?

For you bureaucratic hacks reading these web sites, read carefully. Inside every Muslim is a good person under the control of the Devil. Nuke Mecca and kill the Imams and the world will right itself. What religion combines the Ayn Rand's brute with the witch doctor? Islam is the only one I know. Kill the Imams. It's the short road to peace.