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French youths riot again (Paris/France Riots Live Thread Night #13)
Reuters ^ | November 8, 2005 | Tom Heneghan

Posted on 11/08/2005 3:10:54 AM PST by Dane

French youths riot again Tue Nov 8, 2005 10:16 AM GMT

Villepin announces curfews French officials, community leaders

By Tom Heneghan

PARIS (Reuters) - Youths rioted across France overnight, torching more than 1,000 vehicles, despite government plans to impose curfews to quell almost two weeks of unrest.

The protests, blamed on racism and unemployment, receded in the Paris region after shots were fired at police the previous night but continued unabated in other parts of France in the early hours of Tuesday, the Interior Ministry said.

Other countries watched nervously and some issued travel warnings. Five cars were torched overnight in Brussels, in addition to five set ablaze on Sunday, in what officials say might have been copycat attacks.

The renewed violence followed a warning by Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin that he would take a firm line against lawbreakers, including reinforcements for police and curfews, not seen in France since the Algerian war of 1954-1962.

Villepin's cabinet met on Tuesday and approved the steps.

"Wherever it is necessary, prefects will be able to impose a curfew," Villepin said, referring to the senior officials responsible for security in departments around the country.

A town east of Paris imposed its own curfew on minors on Monday evening and another to the west of the capital organised citizens' patrols to help the police.

Villepin said 1,500 police and gendarmes would be brought in to back up the 8,000 officers already deployed in areas hit by unrest. He also promised to accelerate urban renewal programmes and outlined other plans to help young people in poor suburbs.

MIXED REACTION TO VILLEPIN PLANS

Mayors of riot-hit towns welcomed the tougher line, but some asked what another measure announced by Villepin -- extended powers for them -- would actually mean in practice.

"Every time they announce more powers for mayors, they cut the funds," complained Jean-Christophe Lagarde, mayor of the northeastern Paris suburb of Drancy.

Elisabeth Guigou, a Socialist deputy from the northeastern Paris suburbs, said that invoking a curfew law passed during the Algerian war was "not the best reference" for fighting unrest among youths mostly of North African Arab and African origin.

The left-wing daily Liberation recalled in an editorial that Jacques Chirac was elected president in 1995 after pledging to repair France's "social fracture".

"Chirac's reign is a tragic farce," it wrote.

The opposition Socialists said Villepin had not done enough to give hope to those people in areas hit by the unrest, which has involved poor whites as well as French-born citizens of Arab or African origin complaining of racism and unemployment.

"Beyond the necessary calls for order, what was missing in the prime minister's address was a social dimension, a message and precise commitments towards the people of these areas in difficulty," the Socialist Party said in a statement.

ANOTHER NIGHT OF VIOLENCE

France's conservative government has struggled to formulate a response that could halt the unrest, blamed by many youths on frustration over unemployment, harsh treatment by police and racism.

The violence has prompted warnings that the unrest could damage investment and tourism in France.

The Interior Ministry said 1,173 vehicles had been torched during the night, compared to 1,408 the previous night.

At least four police were hurt, compared with 36 on Sunday night. Some 330 rioters were detained.

In Toulouse, youths set fire to a bus and 21 cars, police said. At least two cars were set ablaze near Lille and two more in Strasbourg, Reuters reporters said.

Police said 14 cars were set alight in the Yvelines district west of Paris and 17 in Seine-Saint-Denis north of the capital, home to many Arab and African immigrants where the unrest began.

Officials in neighbouring Belgium played down the extent of the violence there, although there were also minor incidents of arson in Sint Niklaas in the north and Liege in the east.

"There were no riots. These were all very isolated incidents. Whoever set fire to the cars must have been influenced by the footage of what is going on in France," Brussels fire department spokesman Francis Boileau said.

(Additional reporting by Eric Faye in Paris)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crueligans; france; frenchifada; insurgency; intifada; jihad; parisriota; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising; youths
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To: Fred Nerks

So I guess the rioters in Toledo were pretty funny too, eh?


21 posted on 11/08/2005 3:34:37 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Dane

Liberals in charge. Ha! They always set sail for the waterfall at the end of shit creek, yet everyone seems astounded when the nose dive begins.


22 posted on 11/08/2005 3:35:53 AM PST by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Dane
Villepin ... promised to accelerate urban renewal programmes and outlined other plans to help young people in poor suburbs.

Temper tantrums must never be rewarded.

23 posted on 11/08/2005 3:36:43 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: Dane
"...not seen in France since the Algerian war of 1954-1962."

The French lost that one. Anyways, I think the reason the French have trouble getting ahead of these problems it that they can't figure out who to surrender to. Hopefully some leadership will come from the rioters so that they take over the country.

24 posted on 11/08/2005 3:37:56 AM PST by Leisler
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To: mfulstone

LOL


25 posted on 11/08/2005 3:38:02 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Leisler
The French lost that one.

Only because the OSS missed.

26 posted on 11/08/2005 3:40:46 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Dane

27 posted on 11/08/2005 3:40:47 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: OldFriend

I said it was horrendous. It's also funny. It's a spoof, it's MEANT to be amusing. I live in Australia. I'm an aussie. What riots in Toledo?

Do you have a picture? Lighten up. I'm on your side.


28 posted on 11/08/2005 3:41:09 AM PST by Fred Nerks (The media isn't mainstream it's the ENEMY! The enemy enemy ENEMEDIA!)
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To: GBoettner

That-is-certainly-my-motto!!!!


29 posted on 11/08/2005 3:41:36 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Dane

Seems like French mayors can not impose a curfew in their own town/city without national approval? If true, what a country!


30 posted on 11/08/2005 3:42:40 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Strict legislation in Switzerland has made it extremely difficult to obtain a license to bear arms, and the trend is moving towards even stricter laws. For information purposes only, 400 people had a license to bear arms in the canton of Geneva in 1998. Only eight "survivors" still have authorization today. Understandable when you realize how little violent crime there is in Switzerland.

that says that its very hard to get a pistol

31 posted on 11/08/2005 3:43:05 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Beth528

awesome pic


32 posted on 11/08/2005 3:43:26 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Bon mots

to funny


33 posted on 11/08/2005 3:45:32 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: GBoettner
Don't the French have any 30 cal machine guns? Set up two on roof tops in a cross fire comfiguration, draw the rioters into a line of fire and begin house cleaning.

Of course the French could swat this little rebellion like a fly, they have the means and the know how. But to do so would mean admitting all the liberal/socialist assumptions about how to create a workable, just society, free from class conflict, are... FALSE! So they just play it blase. It isn't coincidence that we English speakers had to import words like nonchalant and blase because we had no native English equivalents.

And what's more, the French are now officially 'racist'. Hey Chirac, how does it feel? For advice on how to deal with rock and bomb throwing youths, I suggest you consult your Israeli ambassador, if you haven't misplaced his phone number.

34 posted on 11/08/2005 3:46:22 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: Dane

This rioting needs to be stopped now. Is it possible that the French government is unable to do anything to restore public order?

This situation in France is a preview of coming attractions to the USA if Hillary is elected President.


35 posted on 11/08/2005 3:46:50 AM PST by mohresearcher
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To: Fred Nerks
I think they had some type of Nazi demonstration (regarding the danger of the neighborhood) in a "dangerous" neighborhood in Toledo, Ohio. The locals went wild but I believe that order was restored within a day without any Federal assistance.
36 posted on 11/08/2005 3:46:54 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: OldFriend

I'm glad you mentioned that because I heard the same report. It was very early and I thought I was hearing things so I thought I would check in here to see if the situation really had improved.


37 posted on 11/08/2005 3:47:54 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
"For advice on how to deal with rock and bomb throwing youths, I suggest you consult...."

Your buddy Saddam.

38 posted on 11/08/2005 3:48:25 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2

Oh, I do recall reading about that on FR come to think of it, thanks for the reminder. I gained the impression it was somewhat of a non-event with much media spin, is that correct?


39 posted on 11/08/2005 3:51:02 AM PST by Fred Nerks (The media isn't mainstream it's the ENEMY! The enemy enemy ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Beth528
LOL! Excellent!
40 posted on 11/08/2005 3:51:46 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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