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France responds to urban crisis (BBC: de Villepin "strike the right note". Yeah right)
BBC ^ | 8 November 2005 | By William Horsley

Posted on 11/07/2005 5:32:11 PM PST by NZerFromHK

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin seemed to strike the right note in his response to the riots.

But his proposals also showed up the scale of the changes called for in society, to heal the deep wounds that have been exposed.

Mr de Villepin has made a start. No more evasion, and not too much rhetoric about the "values of the Republic."

He has called the situation by its real name - "a crisis in France's cities."

Others have called it a rebellion by an angry underclass.

Mistakes admitted

The French prime minister struck a balance between denouncing the violence and focusing on the future.

The government's response would be "firm and fair". All acts of law-breaking were to be severely condemned.

But France, he acknowledged, had made mistakes in its treatment of its immigrants, especially those from Africa.

Giving a response was a tricky task for a prime minister known for his dashing style but also his record of never having been elected.

He is also known for his romantic notions of French history, but his main goal now is to rescue the sagging reputation of his mentor, President Jacques Chirac.

If Mr de Villepin can fight his way out of this black period he may succeed Mr Chirac as president. If he fails, that prize could go to his arch-rival, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, or another.

After 12 days and nights of riots and car-burning, the prime minister's much-awaited response was in two parts - restoring law and order, and tackling the problems of unemployment of up to 40%, and deep alienation on the part of many among France's more than five million people of Arab and African descent.

Mr de Villepin stressed the government's first priority was to restore calm and stop the nightly violence in the cities and suburbs. He announced:

* Continuing large-scale police deployments, including 1,500 extra reserve officers, in troubled areas

* Swift and effective justice for all law-breakers

* A judicial inquiry into the deaths of two teenagers in Clichy-sous-Bois, Paris, which sparked the riots

* New powers for the mayors of French cities and municipalities, to impose curfews and maintain order

* A restoration of spending programmes (recently cut back) on community associations of all kinds, to promote social solidarity

'Harassment'

Community leaders from France's main ethnic minorities have demanded new laws to end discrimination in jobs and housing, and an end to what they say is police harassment.

They resent police searches for "sans-papiers" - illegal immigrants - and the constant threat of deportation hanging over them. They also want the right to vote, even for those without French citizenship.

In response, Mr de Villepin proposed:

* A tripling of state scholarships in poor areas, and increased spending on training schemes for under-achieving young people. Some 150,000 children, mainly from immigrant families, are leaving school without any qualifications

* A lowering to 14 of the age when children wanting to quit school can begin an apprenticeship; this idea was at once criticised by some teachers' leaders

* More company job training schemes in problem areas. Immigrants with a college degree complain they rarely even get job interviews because of blatant discrimination

* An urban renewal programme, re-building districts damaged by the riots and building more humane living environments

* More, unspecified, sanctions to counter social discrimination of all kinds

The prime minister skirted round the highly sensitive issue of Islam, the religion of the great majority of the immigrants and their offspring.

Many French Muslims demand more public recognition by the state, and resent the law which bans the wearing of Muslim headscarves.

Mr de Villepin said only that in France all faiths were respected. He acknowledged public concerns about the growth of radical Islamic thinking, but played down the urgency of the issue.

The recent riots are called the worst since 1968. The government has taken its stand on how to repair the damage.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bbc; cheeseeating; devillepin; dominiquedekerry; france; fwance; insurgency; intifada; jihad; msmbias; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: randog

Yup.
California-democrat
Detroit-Democrat
France-Socialist
Any country hosting soccer-Socialist/democrat

Why is it we never see a riot after a Nascar race?


21 posted on 11/07/2005 5:54:07 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: NZerFromHK

FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF < F. THE FR.>

they need to lose much before they'll change.....


22 posted on 11/07/2005 5:55:14 PM PST by crowman
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To: dighton
The government's response would be "firm and fair". All acts of law-breaking were to be severely condemned.

Yes, we shall write each and every one of the lawbreakers a strongly worded letter...

23 posted on 11/07/2005 5:59:02 PM PST by copycat (Ridicule Hillary! to your friends today!!!)
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To: NZerFromHK

The french are pretty lousy colonialists. Look at Algeria, West Africa and now they can't even properly administer the colony known as "Suburban Paris".


24 posted on 11/07/2005 5:59:34 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: satchmodog9

It is exactly that. There is little difference between Gummint housing, and shantytown suburbs. They should have the opportunity for ownership of private property. It seems like something simple, but even in France there are so many barriers, procedures, time involved, expense, that most are discouraged from starting the process. They can't even easily get permission to subdivide and sell property, and zoning also restricts the possibility. That's what they need, and that's what the politicians aren't getting off their padded seats to make happen.


25 posted on 11/07/2005 6:00:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: NZerFromHK
de Villepin seemed to strike the right note

If he tried to strike the right note, I think he totally missed the whole piano.

26 posted on 11/07/2005 6:04:28 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: NZerFromHK

27 posted on 11/07/2005 6:06:20 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: NZerFromHK
More goodies for the baddies and earnest avowals of universal chumship.

If I were 19 and in a ski mask in Paris at the moment I'd be laughing my @ss off.

28 posted on 11/07/2005 6:06:32 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: pissant
>>>"I won't shed a tear when they castrate Chirac and de Villepan and make them wear burkhas!<<<

nor will I

I'm surprised Chirac isn't required to wear a burkha now.

(then again Trent Lott should have been in one back in the Clinton Administration)

Trent Lott the former leader of ALL SPINELESS REPUBS has just about as much to apologize for as does Bill Clinton.

I will never Forget! Nor will I ever forget McPain, Graham and the list goes on the election cycle nears and the spinning has just started.

We wouldn't be in todays world, post 911, post Spain... if it weren't for SPINELESS REPUBS, the first missile into the aspirin factory screamed from the sky as it reached apex treeeent!!!! as it crested and came hurtling back to Earth
LOTTTTTT!!!!! as it neared the vacant building a small puff of oh thank you... (but that came from the Oval Office, from Bill Clinton... as he turned from the sink)

Forgive but... NEVER FORGET !!!!

TT ps I think it is time to toast myself goodnight. (Good Night!)
29 posted on 11/07/2005 6:07:15 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Normal4me

And in exchange for this Villepin swore to only increase taxes by 40%. And the masses rejoiced.


30 posted on 11/07/2005 6:09:23 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: TexasTransplant

Great post. I agree! Cheers


31 posted on 11/07/2005 6:10:39 PM PST by pissant
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To: RightWhale; Chieftain

You make some very valid points.

Posters on the forum here make a very large error when they make an analogy of rioting in France to rioting in America. The reality is that America is the ONLY country that assumes if you live here and want to assimilate, YOU CAN! All immigrants ( not the illegals )in this country are Americans in the fullest sense of the word.

In Europe, that is not the case. There are French...and then there are immigrants who are French citizens. And the French ( along with most other european countries) do not really tolerate FULL assimilation. sorry, but that IS the reality.

The immigrant then has a choice. Stay a "not quite" really a Frenchman, or German, etc. or go to America.


32 posted on 11/07/2005 6:11:29 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ("What do you call Parisians now? "......"French Fries !")
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Reparations! That's the ticket!


33 posted on 11/07/2005 6:11:50 PM PST by clintonh8r (Civil War II. Are you ready?)
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To: NZerFromHK

French tank crew surrendering to a couple of Nazi infantry soldiers.
34 posted on 11/07/2005 6:12:07 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It's political. Europe has a bad case of it, whereas in America we don't tolerate an excess of it. They say 20% of the world is Western, but it seems some of that 20% is headed rapidly for third world status. We are too, sort of, but America has been there before and has worked hard to climb out. It may be too late for others, even if they know what to do--the power of the state is limited after all.


35 posted on 11/07/2005 6:16:10 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: freebilly
How unexpected. France just surrendered....

The keys to the city of gay parie
are in the hands of the Muslims.

Not Again!


36 posted on 11/07/2005 6:16:14 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: NZerFromHK

That de Villepin fella sure is one tough hombre. I bet the "insurgents" are shaking in their boots.


37 posted on 11/07/2005 6:16:16 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: NZerFromHK

Bet all the white unionists in Paris are going to love it when their "prosperity" gets shared with the hords.


38 posted on 11/07/2005 6:17:49 PM PST by Bertha Fanation
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To: NZerFromHK
"The prime minister skirted round the highly sensitive issue of Islam..."

Instead of flitting round in a skirt, a real man would tell the death cult to blow it out its a**--- then send in the military.


39 posted on 11/07/2005 6:17:53 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad...Jihadn't.)
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To: NZerFromHK
* Swift and effective justice for all law-breakers
___________________________________________________________

Not Fair? Not equitable?
40 posted on 11/07/2005 6:19:44 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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