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Rioting Spreads to 300 Towns in France, unrest hits Germany, Belgium.
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Posted on 11/07/2005 8:37:20 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2

PARIS - Rioting by French youths spread to 300 towns overnight, and a 61-year-old man hurt in the violence died of his wounds, the first fatality in 11 days of unrest that has shocked the country, police said Monday. ADVERTISEMENT

As urban unrest spread to neighboring Belgium and possibly Germany, the French government faced growing criticism for its inability to stop the violence, despite massive police deployment and continued calls for calm.

Meanwhile, governments worldwide urged their citizens to be careful in France.

On Sunday night, vandals burned more than 1,400 vehicles, and clashes around the country left 36 police injured, setting a new high for overnight arson and violence since rioting started last month, national police chief Michel Gaudin told a news conference.

Australia, Britain, Germany and Japan advised their citizens to exercise care in France, joining the United States, Russia and at least a half dozen other countries in warning tourists to stay away from violence-hit areas.

The victim was identified as Jean-Jacques Le Chenadec, a retired auto industry worker who died after being beaten by an attacker. He was trying to extinguish a trash can fire Friday at his housing project in the northeastern suburb of Stains when an attacker caught him by surprise and beat him into a coma, police said.

Apparent copycat attacks spread outside France for the first time, with five cars torched outside Brussels' main train station, police in the Belgian capital said.

The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in more than a decade.

Attacks overnight Sunday to Monday were reported in 274 towns, and police made 395 arrests, Gaudin said.

"This spread, with a sort of shock wave spreading across the country, shows up in the number of towns affected," Gaudin said, noting that the violence appeared to be sliding away from its flash point in the Parisian suburbs and worsening elsewhere.

It was the first time police had been injured by weapons' fire and there were signs that rioters were deliberately seeking out clashes with police, officials said.

Among the injured police, 10 were hurt by youths firing fine-grain birdshot in a late-night clash in the southern Paris suburb of Grigny, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Two were hospitalized, but the injuries were not considered life-threatening. One was wounded in the neck, the other in the legs.

The unrest began Oct. 27 in the low-income Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois after the deaths of two teenagers of Mauritanian and Tunisian origin. The youths were accidentally electrocuted as they hid from police in a power substation. They apparently thought they were being chased.

About 4,700 cars have been burned in France since the rioting began and 1,200 suspects were detained at least temporarily, Gaudin said.

The growing violence is forcing France to confront long-simmering anger in its suburbs, where many Africans and their French-born children live on society's margins, struggling with high unemployment, racial discrimination and despair — fertile terrain for crime of all sorts as well as for Muslim extremists offering frustrated youths a way out.

France, with 5 million Muslims, has the largest Islamic population in Western Europe.

President Jacques Chirac, whose government is under intense pressure to halt the violence, promised stern punishment for those behind the attacks, making his first public comments Sunday since the riots started.

"The law must have the last word," Chirac said after a security meeting with top ministers. France is determined "to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear, and they will be arrested, judged and punished."

France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that forbade all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

Arsonists burned two schools and a bus in the central city of Saint-Etienne and its suburbs, and two people were injured in the bus attack. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete, he said.

In Colombes in suburban Paris, youths pelted a bus with rocks, sending a 13-month-old child to the hospital with a head injury, Hamon said, while a daycare center was burned in Saint-Maurice, another Paris suburb.

Much of the youths' anger has focused on law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, whose reference to the troublemakers as "scum" appeared to inflame passions.


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To: HHKrepublican_2
"Much of the youths' anger has focused on law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, whose reference to the troublemakers as "scum" appeared to inflame passions"

Let me see if I understand the logic of the 'scum'.... "we're so angry that the Interior Minister dared to call us scum that we're detemined to prove him right!"

Any more questions? If not, just move along, kids....
21 posted on 11/07/2005 9:19:07 AM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: HHKrepublican_2

"Rioting", "Unrest"! Gee whiz, what does it take for the MSM to call things what they are. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the Russian Revolution of 1917 "spread to 300 towns". It's a freaking war, an uprising, mon ami!


22 posted on 11/07/2005 9:20:30 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Well,that's the death of the thread1)
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To: Peter Libra
My sad conclusion is that the press have successfully staged managed this news.

Good point.

I'd love to hear some commentary an the lack of photos and video of all this. I haven't seen anything but the occasional burned-out car with police standing nearby.

Where are the world press that pride themselves on going in harms way to cover news?

I don't watch CNN so maybe I'm missing it.

Could it be that the "restless youths" committing this violence are actually 40 year-old bearded Muslims waving Islamic flags?
23 posted on 11/07/2005 9:22:13 AM PST by keat (Posting code without previewing since 2004)
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To: keat

How'd we get video out of Tiananmen Square but we can't get a photo of this uprising out of democratic France?


24 posted on 11/07/2005 9:25:21 AM PST by keat (Posting code without previewing since 2004)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Copycats.... in both Berlin and Brussels - 5 cars tourched at each site.... Hmmmm. Sounds organized to me.


25 posted on 11/07/2005 9:30:39 AM PST by Jumper
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To: HHKrepublican_2

>>Rioting by French youths spread to 300 towns overnight,

"America, help us! Send help!"

"Ooh, I'm SO sorry. Can't do it. Too busy. You know we'd
really like to, but..."

Why did the French plant trees along the Champs Elysees?
So the Nazis would have some nice shade as they marched in.


26 posted on 11/07/2005 9:31:00 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: HHKrepublican_2

How long will it be until the insurgents who were headed for Iraq as reinforcements decide they can accomplish more in France?

The weaponry will be quickly upgraded..they better get a handle on this now!
All sorts of economic fall-out is coming just from what has happened so far.


27 posted on 11/07/2005 9:33:41 AM PST by millefleur (No KING but Jesus !)
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To: keat

Maybe because the MSM are too lily-livered to send in their own people?!


28 posted on 11/07/2005 9:43:59 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Maybe they should plan on declaring a curfew, too. That just might do the trick.


29 posted on 11/07/2005 10:05:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
I'm curious about what Germans are thinking about the French riots. If anyone comes across any articles about German opinion, could you let me know?

I'm interested because Germany is a huge part of Europe it almost took a turn toward the right earlier this year, but it looked like those in the middle of the road chickened out at the last minute and went for socialist status quo.

I'm hoping the goings-on in France -- seeing what is really at stake with socialism and failure to assimilate immigrants -- are pushing those in the middle of the road in Germany toward the right.

I'm hoping that this could make Angela's economic reforms more possible in the Grand Coalition, and I'm hoping that moderates will have the bejeezus scared out of them from these nearby riots, and remember it, and vote the right in as a majority next time around. Maybe unduly optimistic... :/

Europe really had, historically, a lot of good in it, and that good remains there in the beautiful art and architecture, around the world in classical music and literature, there also in a tiny minority of conservative European folks, and in the US insofar as we keep alive many of the better ideas of European origin (ideas which have, in the continent of their genesis, mostly been replaced with rubbish).

I'd really rather Europe changed gears, fought, and saved itself, rather than simply roll over. Up to them, though... and I can't imagine EU citizens getting the right to arms anytime soon. Bah.
30 posted on 11/07/2005 10:10:19 AM PST by illinoissmith
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
The MSM is a joke. They do not want to show the American people where socialism and cowardice leads.
They do not want to show this true face of islam either.
They do not want to tell the world that these are muslims who are burning France!
They do not want to show the world the result of placating islam. Fire in the streets, a nation burning out of control and the French government completely castrated of the power to stop the destruction.
The islamic takeover of France is well on it's way.
I could only imagine what the reception to these actions would be in my neck of the woods. A well armed populace would be hunting them by now. This is just another form of islamic terrorism. If you want to stop a terrorists you have to give them what they want. Kill them and let them rot in hell dreaming of their virgins.
31 posted on 11/07/2005 10:16:49 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: HHKrepublican_2
These are classic Muslim/Arab battle tactics, hit and run, disrupt, civilian/defenseless targets and terror.

The result: no casualties, but lots of yelling (Allah Akbar), no strategic plan and no way to win a decisive victory.

Annoying for sure, but only a real threat if the "hosts" let it be and do not confront it.

FWIIW, schu
32 posted on 11/07/2005 10:22:56 AM PST by schu
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To: HHKrepublican_2
"forbade all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

What if they're knowingly and intentionally doing it?

33 posted on 11/07/2005 10:29:58 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: HHKrepublican_2

"The lights are going out all over Europe: we shall not see them lit again in our lifetime."

This rings just as true today as it did in 1914, maybe even more.


34 posted on 11/07/2005 10:31:08 AM PST by LonghornFreeper
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To: raccoonradio
Again, the real NEWS is the way news is reported itself.

I am technically incapable of posting this link using HTML. However, I offer it as a way for Freepers to check how blogosphere is getting news out despite MSMs attempts to control the agenda and the news. Its a way to chart who is talking about what. And as you can see the French riots are getting coverage.

Here: http://www.blogpulse.com/trend?query1=French+Riots&label1=Riots&query2=&label2=&query3=&label3=&days=30&x=46&y=12

35 posted on 11/07/2005 10:40:32 AM PST by CT
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To: dubyaismypresident

"I always thought they'd need to be a bigger minority than they are before beginning the Euarabian Intafada."

They do. This is definitely a Phase I thing, and the Islamacist leaders are well aware of it.

I predict when these riots are over, things will become surprisingly calm. After little while, people will start concluding that things are not really as bad as they seemed during the riots.

The reason is this: the Islamacists now have extremely fertile ground for recruitment. What they need now from European governments is privacy. This is not a good time to have a spotlight shining on the Islamic communities. Some of the people that need to be moved into these communities at this point in time to recruit and organize in preparation for Phase II are people who need to keep a low profile with international law enforcement.

Anyhow, this is my prediction. We'll see if I'm right or wrong


36 posted on 11/07/2005 11:01:18 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
I'm waiting for the EU to step up to the plate and deal with this.

Still waiting..

37 posted on 11/07/2005 11:04:12 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: HHKrepublican_2
It was the first time police had been injured by weapons' fire and there were signs that rioters were deliberately seeking out clashes with police, officials said.

France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that forbade all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

I guess the thugs above are exempt from the Fatwa 8as was intended!!!)

38 posted on 11/07/2005 11:06:56 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

How the hell does the violence "SPREAD"? :-) What is it, an Avian Violence Flu?


39 posted on 11/07/2005 11:11:25 AM PST by pganini
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Chirac: France has failed to integrate the French-born children of Arab and black African immigrants in poor suburbs who have been taking part in the violence,

This man STILL does not get it!
40 posted on 11/07/2005 11:58:34 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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