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Riots In France Turn Deadly (1st fatality)
WCBSTV ^ | November 7, 2005

Posted on 11/07/2005 7:28:49 AM PST by NYer

PARIS A man who was beaten by an attacker while trying to extinguish a trash can fire during riots north of Paris has died of his injuries, becoming the first fatality since the urban unrest started 11 days ago, a police official said Monday. Youths overnight injured three dozen officers and burned more than 1,400 vehicles.

Apparent copycat attacks spread to other European cities for the first time, with five cars torched outside Brussels' main train station, police in the Belgian capital said.

Australia, Austria and Britain became the latest countries to advise their citizens to exercise care in France, joining the United States and Russia in warning tourists to stay away from violence-hit areas.

Alain Rahmouni, a national police spokesman, said the man who was beaten died at a hospital from injuries sustained in the attack, but he had no immediate details about the victim's age or his attacker.

The man was caught by surprise by an attacker after rushing out of his apartment building to put out the fire, Rahmouni said.

Clashes around France left 36 police injured, and vandals burned 1,408 vehicles overnight Sunday-Monday, setting a new high for overnight arson and violence since the rioting started Oct. 27, national police chief Michel Gaudin said.

The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in over a decade.

Attacks overnight were reported in 274 towns and police made 395 arrests, Gaudin said.

"This spread, with a sort of shock wave spreading across the country, shows up in the number of towns affected," Gaudin said, noting that the violence appeared to be sliding away from its flash point in the Parisian suburbs and worsening elsewhere.

It was the first time police were injured by weapons fire amid signs that rioters were deliberately seeking out clashes with police, officials said.

Among the injured police, 10 were injured by youths firing fine-grain birdshot in a late night clash in the southern Paris suburb of Grigny, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Two were hospitalized but their lives were not in danger. One was wounded in the neck, the other in the legs.

The unrest began in the low-income Paris suburb of
Clichy-sous-Bois, after the deaths of two teenagers of Mauritanian and Tunisian origin. The youths were accidentally electrocuted as they hid from police in a power substation. They apparently thought they were being chased.

There have been 4,700 cars burned in France since the rioting began, and 1,200 suspects have been detained at least temporarily, Gaudin said.

The growing violence is forcing France to confront long-simmering anger in its suburbs, where many Africans and their French-born children live on society's margins, struggling with high unemployment, racial discrimination and despair -- fertile terrain for crime of all sorts as well as for Muslim extremists offering frustrated youths a way out.

France, with some 5 million Muslims, has the largest Islamic population in Western Europe.

Meanwhile, the government faced growing criticism for its inability to stop the violence, despite massive police deployment and continued calls for calm.

President Jacques Chirac promised stern punishment for those behind the attacks, making his first public address Sunday since the riots started.

"The law must have the last word," Chirac said after a security meeting with top ministers. France is determined "to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear, and they will be arrested, judged and punished."

France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree. It forbade all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

Arsonists burned two schools and a bus in the central city of Saint-Etienne and its suburbs, and two people were injured in the bus attack. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete, he said. The extent of damage was not immediately clear.

In Colombes in suburban Paris, youths pelted rocks at a bus, sending a 13-month-old child to the hospital with a head injury, Hamon said, while a daycare center was burned in Saint-Maurice, another Paris suburb.

Much of the youths' anger has focused on law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who inflamed passions by referring to troublemakers as "scum."

In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire.

"We'll stop when Sarkozy steps down," said the defiant 17-year-old driver of the car, who gave his name only as Murat. Under arrest, he and several others awaited a ride to the police station as smoke poured from the windows of the housing project behind them.


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KEYWORDS: chirac; france; insurgency; parisriots; sarkozy; uprising
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To: duffthor

After another moment of thought, I would think that much of the answer to your question quickly becomes to what extent people would risk living under Muslim control vice risking their lives to prevent that.

One BIG thing overlooked between Judeo-Christianity in America vice Islam anywhere, is that while J-C appears to be on the outs due to faulty reasoning surrounding our founding underpinnings, Muslims neither make any bones about demanding that their faith lead their politics nor concede any such opportunities.

Some have written extensively on this, but Europe has vacated it's christian religious traditions, similarly to the way we are doing it, and as a result Islam has used this as opportunity to take over and occupy the void.


61 posted on 11/07/2005 9:51:21 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: no dems
this is NOT enjoyable...how can you say that.....

it shows how weak our human nature can become, how impotent.....

we're not that far behind here in the USA......

a few more 9th circuit courts and we'll be done...

62 posted on 11/07/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by cherry
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To: no dems
Dear God, please forgive me for enjoying this as much as I am.

Amen. I can't seem to help myself.

63 posted on 11/07/2005 10:15:31 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: everyone

Hello, Everyone, Big Bad Bob here, from the Garden Of England. I think it's time that you all get the view from my side of the Pond.

I think first things first, we have to say that this has been threatening to come for some considerable time, what people have to understand is that although in the mainstream media for the last decade, it has been depicted that France is the most multicultralist country in Europe (which is absurd!), there has been an severe undercurrant of resentment from those in the Inner Cities and suburbs of Paris, Marseille and Lille that prosperity and employment has not arrived there as well as in the more, dare I say bourgeousis areas of the country. Remember this resentment has come up before. The Paris Metro bombings in the early 90s showed that Race Relations in France were not what the outside world was left to believe.

It has to be said though that the attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the continuing threats to both Syria and Iran are also beginning to take its toll on Muslims. The attacks on both London and Madrid as well as the assasination of controversial film producer Theo Van Gogh in Amsterdam last year shows that the War on Terror is, as much as I'd hate to say it, is now in our cities, and in some cases are the battleground, as we have seen in France this past week.

What is my thoughts on where we go from here. I don't like the future and the way things are going. Some commentators are saying that the riots across France are in an way an intifada. I like to disagree, but I can't. This has been waiting to happen, and like most things only need a spark to let off the entire factory. With reports coming in of smaller scale disturbances in Berlin and Brussels, this could be the start of something that none of us want to see.

It will be interesting to see how the indigenous populations of certain countries react when they see the cities burning.


64 posted on 11/07/2005 1:06:32 PM PST by Big Bad Bob (In Times Of Thought, Let Us Never Forget.)
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To: cherry

Dear Cherry,

"He who does not like poetic justice has never tasted it."

no dems


65 posted on 11/07/2005 11:52:55 PM PST by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: Mo1

Typical of the Euroweenies. It took dang near two weeks for the first fatality.

Try that crap in the USA. We'll START with some spilled guts.


66 posted on 11/07/2005 11:54:43 PM PST by 308MBR (If we ain't supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?)
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To: NYer; no dems; Prime Choice

67 posted on 11/08/2005 12:01:27 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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