JEANINE PIRRO Conservatives eye rival.
Posted on 11/07/2005 5:10:04 AM PST by Liz
JEANINE PIRRO Conservatives eye rival.
Jeanine Pirro's little-known opponent for the GOP nomination for U.S. Senate is close to winning crucial backing from the small but influential Conservative Party, insiders say.
Such a success by former Yonkers Mayor John Spencer would deny Pirro a vital endorsement in what would already be — if she is the GOP nominee — an uphill battle against incumbent Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. And it would be the latest blow for Pirro, the outgoing Westchester County district attorney whose campaign has been marred by stumbles and fund-raising shortfalls.
Tactically, Spencer, a tough-talking ex-Marine who is far more conservative than Pirro on a range of issues, plans to use Conservative Party backing as leverage to convince many still-uncommitted GOP leaders to back him as the only candidate with a chance to defeat Clinton.
"Spencer clearly has the edge on Jeanine," Conservative Party Chairman Michael Long told The Post. "If our party's convention was held next week, I think Spencer would be the choice." Spencer said, "I feel, at this point, the Conservative endorsement is in the bag."
No Republican since 1974 has won statewide election without Conservative Party support.
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if Rudy ran, she would simply pull out and move right to the presidential run.
Pirro will have the best showing against Hillary. any other candidate will make the race a farce - there won't even be any debates, she won't have to spend $5 to win.
I like the city where I live, politics notwithstanding. In any case, one town voting 51% for Bush does not a "Republican upstate" make. I can find better examples than that, like Dover and Wayland, but they're still small towns with big Democrat minorities.
That's a good point, and I'm not usually one to go in for "gestures". Pirro really isn't going to challenge Hilary much on substance, so I can't see her doing us much good. If this other guy is bright and sufficiently articulat, it might be better to run him.
It's a New England thing--we report our election results by towns instead of county, and the Washington Post screwed up and called them counties.
Election results by county:
http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/state.php?year=2004&fips=25
Jeannine Pirro is dropping like a rock. She is not catching fire because people can't see a difference between her and Hillary Clinton. They are both 100% pro abortion, 100% pro gay "marriage" 100% anti 2nd amendment and pro affirmative action, so where's the difference.
Harry Truman once said "When you give people the choice of voting for a fake Democrat or a real Democrat they will vote for the real Democrat everytime."
Pirro wouldn't break 40%.
You don't do that by nominating someone who holds similar views about basic issues.
No, it was Alphonse D'Amato (who successfully challenged Javits in the Republican primary).
Was it Jacob Javits? I expect the NY Conservative party didn't support him either.
Should they have supported him? Would you have supported him?
Well no surprise about the Post. I still think towns like North Andover should not be in the same district as Lawrence. I'm sure there are other examples as well. Counties really have little meaning in Mass - a form of Gov't that should probably be eliminated from the budget. I think looking at individual towns would give you more of an idea of how people voted. Unfortunately I couldn't find such a map.
LOL. The election results are reported by County and there are county officials who are elected on that basis. Just admit that you were wrong about your statement that, "I believe Bush won one out of thirteen counties and came real close in two other rural counties" and move on. We all make mistakes. No need to rationalize them.
Uh OK, I admit that I was wrong. I read the Washington Post - that was my first mistake. When you get done with your victory dance, can you find election results by town? I'd really like to see that.
Would I have supported Javits - if he ran against Hillary I would.
James Buckley elected as the candidate of the Conservative Party of New York State to the United States Senate in 1970, beating both the Republican, Charles Goodell, and Democrat Dick Ottinger and served from January 3, 1971, to January 3, 1977.
If you are interested, try the state of Mass official election results. Must be listed in there.
Thank you. Now I remember, it's all coming back to me. That was the same year I graduated from SUNY. It think Goodell and Ottinger split the liberal vote. Those were the days. I'd sure like to see something like that happen in NY again but her heinnous won't let that happen again. Count on it.
Ottinger is still upset about the Liberal Party in that race, who endorsed the Republican. It did make a difference.
Perhaps if the only choice is betweem Hillary and Javits, there are conceivable senarios in which it would make sense to support Javits (if only to hurt Hillary's chances), but there is no reason any conservative would support him in the primary (which, in 1980, they didn't). In his last term, his ACU average was 3.2/100 (worse than Moynihan, who averaged 8.5 in the four years he was in office during that period), while Moynihan's predecessor Buckley (elected on the Conservative Party ticket, incidentally) scored in the 80s.
It's unlikely that Pirro is this liberal, but my point is that there is a point at which a Republican can be so liberal it is futile for conservatives to support him.
Ottinger! Is he still around? I grew up in Western NY (left after college when I couldn't find a job). I always wondered what the heck NYC had in common with the rest of the state - it's like a foreign land.
Very true. You are speaking to a New Englander - we have plenty. However, in terms of maintaining control of the Senate, even idiots can be useful and it's easier to pressure a RINO than a Democrat.
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