This quote from Winston Churchill is very telling.........
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property; either as a child, a wife, or a concubine; must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248 50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).
How does one talk "sense" into someone who has never seen his or her parent hold a job,ever, who feels "entitled" to live off the work of others, and who feels absolutely that they are entitled to transform a host society into a warped vision of an alternate reality?
If they can't assimilate, they can't survive. Anywhere.
The sad state of their home countries is eloquent testimony to that sad reality.
Of course that's what they're saying - they invented Balkanization. That's what they're saying ... for now. They'll insist on controlling all countries eventually.
This Tabligh ?
http://www.meforum.org/article/686
Inside every Muslim is a good person under the control of the Devil.
If muslim groups are getting stronger, than why do I suddenly feel 3 times as strong as yesterday? I am Christian; I am Catholic.
Autonomy? Maybe. But once these muslim groups have their hands on these kids and they become further alienated from the majority and the government, terrorist imams will really have a big population to recruit from.
Yes, you are right. It is totally scary.
Link to article: Muslim Groups May Gain Strength From French Riots
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They are not assimilating here as well. Islam is just not compatible with the 21 century.
Can there be any doubt that France represents the crowning ideal of the US MSM? Supremely hypocritical, conniving and backstabbing. Cowardly, yet cavalierly brutal when advancing its interests. And hateful of the US.
Before this intifada, France and the MSM had a symbiotic strategy. The French sneered at the US - and "showed the way" to live in peace and kumbuyaness with the downtrodden Muslim world. Meanwhile, they connived to stab the US and its allies in the back. The MSM covered up for France and gushed at the wonderful success of the French in counterpointing US positions. The French had a perfect foil to divert the traitorous Muslim masses in their midst - "Attack the USA...for they are EEEEEVILLE!" They could also make a few Euros selling arms to our enemies. And they were well protected - since they had the MSM to run global cover, and they had their their appeasement talk to keep their domestic Muslims diverted.
But it didn't work. And now they are fresh out of ideas. They don't have a clue as to how to warp-drive away from their relentless excusism and near-exhortation of an anti-west jihad - all the way to what it will take to bring down the indigenous Frankenstein they created. Just like the US MSM, they believe they never have to answer for their actions - and that the world must just listen to them and their rhetoric.
But the Muslim rabble don't care what they say. They just want to take over, starting with their occupied French territory - and they won't be diverted any longer, no matter how much Chirac trashes America.
So what's a conniving, backstabbing French socialist POS to do? You can only connive against and backstab people that trust you to turn their back. And they wore out that trust with the US many vicious actions ago. And if they think they can connive and backstab Muslim leaders into deflating this Jihad - they're gonna learn that two will be playing that game.
Yeah, I suppose I should feel bad for France and all that. But we looked to the heavens when sacks of vicious crap like France did what they did to us after 9/11, and we asked for some sense of justice. Well, here it is, and I'm not about to go around lamenting that France is reaping exactly what it sowed.
That is what they ask for in every country. Even up in Canada they want their own laws.
Which kind do YOU prefer?
"This is scary -- basically they are saying that Europe allow them to set up separate Muslim societies, which are not answerable to the state,"
What do they plan on doing? Trying to set up another Palestine in France?
Looks like the Intifada/Jihad was successful. Have to try it again in another year or so.
On another thread about the Paris riots, this Gilles Kepel is outed as a supporter of Islamofacists.
Whoa, big felluh.
For the past few years, the MSM has said that if we bomb the h*ll out of these people and kill their leaders, it would embolden them and swell their ranks with others wanting to die for Allah.
Now you say that minor military victories, even against the French, will do the same thing. What happened to simply killing them to create a swelling of their ranks?
I'm confused. Which is it?
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