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French society at a crossroads
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| 11/7/2005
| Hugh Schofield
Posted on 11/06/2005 7:31:36 PM PST by 1066AD
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Rather downbeat piece from the Beeb.
Interesting to see them point out that the "Scum" remark attributed to Sarkozy is in fact a misquote.
This other comment really gives one pause:
"The other reason for pessimism is that the rioters can read in much of the reaction to their rampages a legitimisation of what they have done. "
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:31:36 PM PST
by
1066AD
Comment #2 Removed by Moderator
To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
France does not have civil wars. They crumble internally.
Which they will do. They are already writing up the grants for the looters and saboteurs.
They will fold as they have folded for years after being conquered. This one they let in the front door. Don't think other locations in Europe will fair any better...
In addition, this is most likely organized via iran and other terrorist organizations. They certainly get their point across with minimal economic expenditure... 20 kids for free vs thousands of euroes for cops overtime, torched buildings, property, not to mention the fear the "citizens" of france will have ... ...
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:41:42 PM PST
by
Flavius
(Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
To: 1066AD
"They are not rioters. They are insurgents and freedom fighters." -- Rush Limbaugh
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:42:00 PM PST
by
Mark Felton
("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
To: Flavius
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:42:45 PM PST
by
Mark Felton
("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
To: 1066AD
If there is a downturn in the number of acts of violence on Sunday night, which continues into Monday, then it could be cautiously hoped that the worst is over. But if there isn't, if the number of car-burnings remains in the high hundreds over the next two or three nights, then France will have entered a new and dangerous phase.
I would wager 29 officers being shot and rioting near the Paris city-center is not a downturn of the violence.
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:46:00 PM PST
by
Crazieman
(6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
To: 1066AD
French society would have to have some moral fibre to arrive at a crossroads. They've been on a downward slide for so long no one now alive can recall a time when they stood for anything.
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:46:34 PM PST
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
To: Mark Felton
sort of as france...
The Trojan Horse
Still seeking to gain entrance into Troy, clever Odysseus (some say with the aid of Athena) ordered a large wooden horse to be built. Its insides were to be hollow so that soldiers could hide within it.
Once the statue had been built by the artist Epeius, a number of the Greek warriors, along with Odysseus, climbed inside. The rest of the Greek fleet sailed away, so as to deceive the Trojans.
One man, Sinon, was left behind. When the Trojans came to marvel at the huge creation, Sinon pretended to be angry with the Greeks, stating that they had deserted him. He assured the Trojans that the wooden horse was safe and would bring luck to the Trojans.
Only two people, Laocoon and Cassandra, spoke out against the horse, but they were ignored. The Trojans celebrated what they thought was their victory, and dragged the wooden horse into Troy.
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:47:09 PM PST
by
Flavius
(Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: 1066AD
Perhaps, we should emulate the "freedom fighters" who went to Spain in the '30's to fight against the forces of Franco and Hitler. We could be the "George W. Bush Brigades".
/ sarcasm
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:50:02 PM PST
by
Thumper1960
("There is no 'tolerance', there are only changing fashions in intolerance." - 'The Western Standard')
To: 1066AD
According to the BBC, only an act of god will save france.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
11/06/2005 7:58:50 PM PST
by
Mister Da
(Nuke 'em til they glow!)
To: 1066AD
Funny we haven`t heard from all those Hollywood stars and starlets, who are always so quick to call the U.S.A. a spoiled brat of a nation, about this little riot over there in their adopted home of France.
Has anyone heard from them lately?
Maybe their hiding under their beds.
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:00:23 PM PST
by
Peace will be here soon
((Liberal definition of looting: "Self-help Humanitarian Aid."))
To: Mister Da
You mean the One they turned their backs on hundreds of years ago? They kicked Him out (as we're now doing) and now they are getting what they deserve. Not that God is punishing them, but that He's leaving them to their own devices, just as they wanted. Oh well.
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:08:01 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Peace will be here soon
"...It's crazy there! I don't feel safe in
the US any more. I feel that Europe is
a much more civilized and tolerant place.
They are much more enlightened to my way
of thinking. I am embaressed to be an
American now..."
>B-}
To: Thumper1960
France has been anything but a faithful ally this past half century, but we cannot forget the debt we owe to the Marquis de Lafayette.
Yeah, I'd volunteer.
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:12:46 PM PST
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
To: 1066AD
Perhaps the most the government can pray for is a cold snap accompanied by freezing sleet. Maybe that will put out the fires. In other words they are hoping that the Lord in intervene on their agnostic behalf.
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:14:22 PM PST
by
fella
(Political Correctness = Stuck On Stupid)
To: Peace will be here soon
Perhaps some reporter, (not a piece of
leftist traitor MSM scum) Could check
on the HollyPuker Eloi "celebrities"
who live over in "enlightened" France,
to see where they are *now*, and where
they've been over the last few weeks...
it would be interesting to see iif any
of them have changed their travel plans
recently, and have conveiniently arrived
back in the US, in the last week or so...
>Bo)
To: lightman
but we cannot forget the debt we owe to the Marquis de Lafayette.
Repaid in WWI
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:17:18 PM PST
by
uncbob
To: Peace will be here soon
Yes, where *is* Johnny Depp?
To: 1066AD
The weak and ineffectual response of the French state has convinced its opponents they have little to fear. So they will ratchet up the violence to see what Chiraq's breaking point is. No one is sure when he will finally have enough.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
11/06/2005 8:18:32 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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