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Men are too rough to train with, Army tells women
The Daily Mail (UK) ^ | November 6, 2005 | Andrew Wilks

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:53:18 PM PST by Plainsman

The Army is abandoning mixed-sex training units because too many female recruits are getting injured trying to keep up with their male counterparts.

From next April, women will be placed in their own platoons and although the training regime will remain the same, it will be conducted at a pace 'sustainable and commensurate with their physical profile'.

Army chiefs hope the changes will greatly reduce drop-out rates among women after research showed female recruits are up to nine times more likely than men to be discharged through a training-related injury.

Dr James Bilzon, the Army Training and Recruitment Agency's senior scientific adviser, found that women are getting hurt as they try to match men in arduous drills and marches wearing full combat gear.

His research showed that, in general, women are less able to cope with the sudden introduction to the exhausting exercise regime demanded by the Army.

The most common complaints are stress fractures to the shin and thigh bones, and pelvic injuries caused by attempting to keep up with the longer stride patterns of men.

'Men are stronger and more robust and it's silly to pretend otherwise'

Dr Bilzon said: "There is a high incidence of training-induced overuse injuries and associated medical discharges among trainees with lower levels of aerobic fitness, particularly females."

He added: "Female recruits are three-to-four times more likely than males to be medically discharged with a training injury, a figure which may be as high as nine times in some training units."

The changes will end a decade of mixed platoons and are a rebuff to modernisers who insisted women soldiers should be treated equally.

Confirming the move away from mixed-sex training, Colonel David Eccles, Chief of Staff at the Army Training and Recruitment Agency, said: "From spring 2006 all initial training for the British Army will be organised along the lines of single-sex platoons at the Army Training Regiment at Pirbright."

Colonel Bob Stewart, who was awarded the Distinguished Service Order for his service in Bosnia in the early Nineties, said it was "hardly surprising" the Army could not train men and women together.

"Men are stronger and more robust and it's silly to pretend otherwise. It seems that at last the Army has woken up to the fact that women are different - something blatantly obvious to anyone," he added.

The Adult Learning Inspectorate, which assesses training standards for youngsters, had urged a rethink of the Army's 'gender-free' policy.

It found that shin bone fractures in women had risen from 12.6 per 10,000 personnel to 231.2 since the introduction of mixed-sex training, while all injuries among women rose from 467 to 1,113 per 10,000. Women currently serve alongside men in all aspects of Army life apart from infantry and tank units and last year 815 women enlisted.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: chicks; era; militaryreadiness; militarywomen; training; womenincombat; womeninmilitary
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To: Plainsman

"Girls and boys are different"
signed, any Kindergartener


21 posted on 11/06/2005 6:38:31 PM PST by dakine
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To: madison10
Hillary's duh!
22 posted on 11/06/2005 6:38:41 PM PST by manwiththehands ("They wanted a Harley, they got a Scooter Libby." -Don Surber)
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To: Plainsman

There are probably a bunch of pansy men that don't want to be outdone by a girl...


23 posted on 11/06/2005 6:40:15 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: Plainsman

There are virtually no sports where women compete directly against men, yet liberals want women to fight men on the battlefield.


24 posted on 11/06/2005 6:40:53 PM PST by BadAndy (Unnecessarily harsh)
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To: Mulch
Some of the action films that started coming out in the 90's were hard to take seriously. Carrie Fisher taking command of her own rescue party and bullseyeing stormtroopers in Star Wars was funny and somewhat original for the time, but nowadays every female lead in an action film has to be as butch as the men and be capable of taking out someone two to three times their body weight, especially if the story is set in any decade before a member of NOW burned a bra. It's one of many over-used elements in pop culture these days.

On the other hand, Linda Hamilton was one of the best characters in T2 because she really did look like she had put on some muscle and she didn't act like she was as immune to pain and fatigue as Arnie's character was.
25 posted on 11/06/2005 6:45:35 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Plainsman

'Men are stronger and more robust and it's silly to pretend otherwise'

Who didn't know this?


26 posted on 11/06/2005 6:51:06 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: Plainsman

Follow the Marines and the Army will be alright.


27 posted on 11/06/2005 6:53:16 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: SonnyBubba

I am sure that retired Dim Senator Pat Schroeder is
pulling out what hair she has left !!

Ha Ha !


28 posted on 11/06/2005 6:55:43 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Plainsman

If I promise to go easy...can I play with the girls?


29 posted on 11/06/2005 6:59:49 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!!!)
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To: Plainsman


I will risk committing the grievous thoughtcrime of political incorrectness and state the next logical question, why does the military discharge men who can meet the female physical standard? Why not restrict them to the jobs that women are allowed into?


30 posted on 11/06/2005 7:05:56 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Plainsman
And, for one span of every month, the ladies' platoons will be most feared. Psy-ops could involve dropping a few chocolate-dipped-strawberry MRE packages. Such would prompt immediate surrender of all surrounding enemy forces.

owowowow don't hit me owowowow

31 posted on 11/06/2005 7:11:36 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Plainsman

Will they also just fight against other women? Just wondering.


32 posted on 11/06/2005 7:21:20 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Plainsman

Hopefully when they go to battle the eneny will have the courtesy of only using women soldiers against them.


33 posted on 11/06/2005 7:22:27 PM PST by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: Mister Da
The military simply needs to figure out what women do better than men. Yes, I know that may sound heretical to some, but isn't it obvious that if men are better at some things than women, then women must be better at some things than men.

Uh, no.

34 posted on 11/06/2005 7:23:13 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Plainsman

Slow learners - the Army that is.


35 posted on 11/06/2005 7:24:11 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: SubMareener
Good to see the Army is finally facing reality.

I think it is the British Army. Ours is mired in PC think.

36 posted on 11/06/2005 7:43:36 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Mister Da
The military simply needs to figure out what women do better than men.

They just have to ask any married man.

37 posted on 11/06/2005 7:47:27 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Plainsman
"Men are stronger and more robust and it's silly to pretend otherwise. It seems that at last the Army has woken up to the fact that women are different - something blatantly obvious to anyone," he added.

He's quite right.

38 posted on 11/06/2005 8:28:42 PM PST by Alia
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To: Plainsman

Damn!
At first glance, I thought; My Army, The US Army. Outstanding!!!

Just, Damn.


39 posted on 11/06/2005 8:34:41 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Plainsman

I don't think they have women's matches in war.


40 posted on 11/06/2005 8:35:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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