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National Petition: Oppose the "Crescent of Embrace" Proposal for the Flight 93 Memorial
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| 11/06/2005
| Jeff Head
Posted on 11/06/2005 5:36:17 PM PST by Jeff Head
Edited on 11/08/2005 4:02:18 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator.
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Pleasee sign this petition opposing the "Crescent of Embrace" design being developed for the Flight 93 memorial. Despite vague comments by the designer and the Park Service, the design is going forward as yet unchanged.
PETITION: Oppose the "Crescent of Embrace " Proposal for the Flight 93 Memorial
We must, as US citizens oppose this travesty and make our voices heard. If enough of us do so, we will be successful as we were in opposing the Flag Raising Monument in January of 2002 that had been planned for the WTC Flag Raising.
Start your email chains, link to it on your sites, talk it up in the forums you frequent, call your relatives and friends, inform your neighbors.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Free Republic; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; americanheroes; antiterror; dhimmis; flight93; flight93memorial; freep; islamicterror; jeremyglick; lindagronlund; redcrescent; sandrabrashaw; todbeamer; tomburnett; travesty; treachery; waronterrior
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To: StarCMC; editor-surveyor
201
posted on
11/07/2005 3:03:05 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the heads up. Great Post!!
[Mrs]
202
posted on
11/07/2005 3:48:56 AM PST
by
trooprally
(Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
To: Jeff Head
Sometimes I wonder if opposition from the Right doesn't serve to "validate"
(oh, how I hate that word) these idiots' feelings about the need for healing and reconciliation.
We are beyond the hope of trying to convince these people. Now we must make them fear us.
203
posted on
11/07/2005 3:57:24 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
To: Burr5
We must never build ANYTHING in the shape of a semi-circle ever again! Because, as you can clearly see, if you look carefully, a straight line, drawn between an arbitrary part of the edifice and Mecca produces a line straight from the monument to Mecca! OMG! Ok, well it's not really a straight line at all, but whatever. I fail to see your point. Do you not take the architect at his word when he frankly says that the crescent shape is meant as a symbol of reconciliation with Islam?
If we take the architect at his word, and accept that the crescent shape is a symbol of Islam and meant to promote reconciliation, how do you feel about that?
BTW, please respond to the actual question, respectfully phrased, instead of talking about crescent rolls and baseball stadiums and the like.
204
posted on
11/07/2005 4:05:30 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
To: rwfromkansas
points to mecca? huh?
It is not even a crescent, just a semicircle.
This is a crescent. (..)
This monument is a clear semicircle and doesn't come close to resembling a crescent moon. The Islamic crescent moon would continue on much more than this semicircle.
I personally think the monument is pretty stupid and why it got picked I don't know. But, do you honestly think they would have chosen this if they thought it would promote Islam? Please. I would ask you the same question I asked Mr. Burr. Do you not accept the architect who designed the project at his word when he states frankly that the proposed Crescent of Embrace was intended as a symbol of Islam, and was placed in the memorial to promote reconciliation with Islam? After all, who would know better than the architect who designed the thing?
If you accept the architect at his word, how do you feel about that?
If you think the architect was lying when he said the Crescent of Embrace is an Islamic Crescent, I would love to hear you theory about why he would tell such a lie.
And please, answer the questions, instead of going off on a tangent.
205
posted on
11/07/2005 4:12:37 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
To: editor-surveyor
How can an Islamic Terrorist symbol honor those killed by Islamic Terrorists?
Why should the Muslims suddenly own the rights to every crescent shape? I didnt like it when the homosexuals hijacked the word gay, now we are supposed to give the Muslims the exclusive rights to the word crescent? What do we give up next? The word star? The Islamic symbol
is the Crescent and Star. Whats next redesign all of our larger dams? Delete every moon symbol?
Here is the proposed design of the memorial. I see nothing Islamic about it. I actually like the design and the crescent is not the stylized Islamic crescent.
206
posted on
11/07/2005 4:14:16 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: R. Scott
Why should the Muslims suddenly own the rights to every crescent shape? I didnt like it when the homosexuals hijacked the word gay, now we are supposed to give the Muslims the exclusive rights to the word crescent? What do we give up next? The word star? The Islamic symbol is the Crescent and Star. Whats next redesign all of our larger dams? Delete every moon symbol?
Here is the proposed design of the memorial. I see nothing Islamic about it. I actually like the design and the crescent is not the stylized Islamic crescent. Why do you not accept the architect's own statements that the crescent shape is intended as a symbol of Islam and meant to promote reconciliation? Of course, it will mean to you whatever it means to you. But the intent of the architect, by his own admission, is that the crescent is a symbol of Islam.
If you accept the statement of the architect, and who would know better than him, that the Crescent of Embrace is an Islamic Crescent, and that it was placed their with the specific intent of promoting reconciliation with Islam, how do you feel about that?
And, please, don't go on and on about dams and off-ramps and the like. What is relevent here is the design and the statements of the architect explaining the design. Do you think designing the memorial to Flight 93 as an Islamic symbol in order to promote reconciliation is a good idea?
207
posted on
11/07/2005 4:30:08 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
To: Theresawithanh
Yeah, I thought so too. What's up?
208
posted on
11/07/2005 4:41:02 AM PST
by
isrul
To: gridlock
What-you-said concurring bump.
If the architect said it, that's it.
And the architect's idea really stinks. No crescent.
BTTT.
To: gridlock
History and all reason tell you that you cannot reconcile to someone or a group of people who are malicious and want to out and out kill you. As you well know, that is the only "reconciliation" the islamic radicals desire...or for us to convert wholly to their ideology and serve them.
Irrespective of what the "useful idiots" of the left believe or say...they are just that, "useful idiots" whom these same radicals would themselves kill if given the chance. Those liberal leaders who are pushing the useful idiots buttons and pulling their strings are themselves enemies to all we hold dear...our liberty, our moral values, and our very way of life and life itself.
210
posted on
11/07/2005 5:36:25 AM PST
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: editor-surveyor
"How can an Islamic Terrorist symbol honor those killed by Islamic Terrorists? Is this entire country mentally ill?"
An old man once told me, liberalism is a mental disorder. In fact, he said it many, many times.
211
posted on
11/07/2005 5:39:55 AM PST
by
Arthur Wildfire! March
("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
To: isrul
The designer made vague comments about considering a name change...and then nothing has happened. Time to turn up the heat. Please sign and forward it on to your email list asking them to sign and forward it on themselves.
212
posted on
11/07/2005 5:41:21 AM PST
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for the Ping. I thought this was a done deal and the design was going to be redesigned. I will do everything I can to help stop this sham.
To: gridlock
Do you think designing the memorial to Flight 93 as an Islamic symbol in order to promote reconciliation is a good idea?
A good idea? No, but in a few years it will be forgotten, and few will be aware of it even when completed. The designers comment just brings us one step closer to surrendering the word crescent.
214
posted on
11/07/2005 5:46:56 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: editor-surveyor
I signed it. Thank you for the ping.
215
posted on
11/07/2005 5:56:18 AM PST
by
planekT
(Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player.)
To: Jeff Head
Please change the spelling--should read "petition". Thanks.
216
posted on
11/07/2005 6:28:57 AM PST
by
ariamne
(Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
To: Jeff Head
Oops, someone already pointed out the petition mistake. Never mind.
217
posted on
11/07/2005 6:30:25 AM PST
by
ariamne
(Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the notice, Fred...taken care of and forwarded!
218
posted on
11/07/2005 6:35:06 AM PST
by
Former Dodger
( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
To: R. Scott
A good idea? No, but in a few years it will be forgotten, and few will be aware of it even when completed. The designers comment just brings us one step closer to surrendering the word crescent. I have no desire to surrender the word "crescent". Crescent moon, Crescent wrench, crescent rolls... it's all good. But the point is this architect designed this memorial as an Islamic symbol, in an intentional attempt to promote reconciliation. In other words, he is hijacking the memorial to use it for some other purpose.
This is not acceptable. Yes, in time people will forget the outrage and ignore this site. In ten years time, we will all be numb and will have forgotten Flight 93, and the heroism displayed by the passengers. All the quicker if the memorial to their lives is actively offensive.
So why do it? What is the pressing need to put this crescent in the middle of this memorial, surrounding the site of the crash? Why would you be willing to tolerate such a thing?
219
posted on
11/07/2005 6:47:18 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
To: R. Scott
No, but in a few years it will be forgotten, and few will be aware of it even when completed.Except the terrorists. Talk about a morale-booster for them.
220
posted on
11/07/2005 7:37:32 AM PST
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
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