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The Crusades: The Crescent & The Cross, History Channel 11/6 & 11/7, 9PM
History Channel ^ | 11/6/05

Posted on 11/06/2005 4:06:10 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta

It was the collision of two great faiths…a clash between two of the world’s most enduring and powerful religions.

A thousand years ago, they battled each other for two centuries during three Crusades, each seeking control of what they claimed as the rightful holy lands of their people.

Heroes and villains emerged, and acts of barbarism cut wounds that are still felt to this day.

This November, The History Channel travels back in time for a historical, vivid and clear-eyed look at the first three Crusades, the battle between the Crescent and the Cross, which still shapes the Middle East and relations between the two great religions in our present-day world.


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KEYWORDS: churchhistory; crusades; historychannel; muslim; passthecrescentrolls
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1 posted on 11/06/2005 4:06:11 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Looking forward to this! Hopefully my bride will not be to bored with it.


2 posted on 11/06/2005 4:08:13 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I'm glad I don't watch TV. I think it's a safe bet that this will not be an honest appraisal of the Crusades and why they were initiated.


3 posted on 11/06/2005 4:10:52 PM PST by ECM
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

acts of barbarism cut wounds that are still felt to this day.


That's because Islam has committed them in the past 24 hours
eh.


4 posted on 11/06/2005 4:11:20 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I've got my Tivo all set to record it. Hopefully it won't be ruined by political correctness but sadly I have my doubts.
5 posted on 11/06/2005 4:13:35 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: redgolum

It's 8pm Central time. If you follow the link to the History Channel, it requires a slight wait for it to load.


6 posted on 11/06/2005 4:14:08 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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It was the collision of two great faiths. . .

Eh.

How about:

"It was the collision between a great faith and an international protection racket."

7 posted on 11/06/2005 4:14:21 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
A thousand years ago, they battled each other for two centuries during three Crusades, each seeking control of what they claimed as the rightful holy lands of their people.

(snip)

This November, The History Channel travels back in time for a historical, vivid and clear-eyed look at the first three Crusades, the battle between the Crescent and the Cross, which still shapes the Middle East and relations between the two great religions in our present-day world.

Since they left out the initial wars of aggression by the muslims to slaughter the Christians, Jews and pagans who occupied these lands and only talk about the Crusades as the "battle for control" you can already tell it's a pack of lies.

The History Channel, promoting Dhimmitude via a cable system near you.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 4:14:24 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Been avoiding the History channel since they chose Christmas as the time to air a program suggesting Mary was raped by a Roman soldier.

It should be the History (according to liberals and athiest) channel.


9 posted on 11/06/2005 4:16:16 PM PST by x5452
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To: ECM
" I think it's a safe bet that this will not be an honest appraisal of the Crusades and why they were initiated."

Only one way to find out.

10 posted on 11/06/2005 4:16:24 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
The review in the New York Post is not promising:

What you will come away from this fine series knowing is that the Crusades was a church-sponsored Holocaust — resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Jews — an ethnic cleansing if you will — with the goal of taking back Jerusalem from the Muslims.

Sounds like the standard modern Karen Armstrong-style "Crusaders-were-eeeeeeevil-and-Muslims-were-gentle-peaceful-victims" spin.

*rolls eyes*

11 posted on 11/06/2005 4:17:12 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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True...I'll lurk here and wait for reports...;)


12 posted on 11/06/2005 4:18:29 PM PST by ECM
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Maybe I'm all wet, but the timing seems bad to me. We've already had the media and others put gasoline on the fire. Is the History Channel (very worthwhile watching, IMO) adding fireworks for good measure?


14 posted on 11/06/2005 4:20:16 PM PST by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

If the Crusades are on t.v., look for the story to be revised and biased..... against the Christians. Best, and perhaps most accurate book ever written about the Crusades was by Hillaire Belloc.


15 posted on 11/06/2005 4:22:04 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: ECM

ECM wrote: "I think it's a safe bet that this will not be an honest appraisal of the Crusades and why they were initiated."

Modern shows on the Crusades are adventures in multi-culturalism. They take the fact that there were honorable and dishonorable men on both sides to make it seem like Islam and Christianity are equally bad/good.

First off, many of the Crusaders were clearly not Christian in the first place. They may have professed to be Christian, but they practiced evil. Secondly, our entire civilization, including its belief in individual freedom and democracy, owes its existance to the Europeans. Had the Muslims won, America as we know it would not exist.


16 posted on 11/06/2005 4:22:25 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: ECM
I agree. Any honesty would offend mohammedans and we can't have that.
17 posted on 11/06/2005 4:24:52 PM PST by isrul
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I should probably watch this. I just recovered from the flu when the subject was covered in World History and I never really got the big picture of the whole thing. (THat, and Mr. Florian was a lousy history teacher.)

TS

18 posted on 11/06/2005 4:25:33 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: Baynative
The problem with the Crusades is that they didn't finish the job.

Heathen, heretic, insensitive clod, how dare you!!

(Only mad 'cause I didn't type it first.) :)

19 posted on 11/06/2005 4:26:37 PM PST by mosquewatch.com
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To: Baynative

Exactly.


20 posted on 11/06/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by mlc9852
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