Posted on 11/06/2005 12:51:07 PM PST by lizol
>>Why Some Riot and Some Do Not<<
I have to be in the mood, or after a nice meal and a few drinks.
These are not angry French youths, They are black African and Muslim. Polish unemployed are mostly white. See the difference?. Now you know.Of course you wont admit it.
Born in France? Doesn't matter. They are not French. You are what you do, not what you say or what you whine.
Are dogs born in France French citizens?
The big difference is that the Poles aren't Muslim.
Yep, don't need the hassle.
No, not really.
Paris rioters? Muslims. Polish discontents? Christians.
People can try and examine a myriad of possible social and economic causes but the obvious (and correct) explanation is the one that everybody is trying so hard hard to avoid entertaining. Muslims are violent and wish to destroy Western Civilization. IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!! THEY HATE US!!!
The Western world will continue to ignore this at our own peril.
What Brands is doing is very similar to the guest worker programs we used to have in the US. The workers here came from countries like Jamaica, Barbados, and Mexico.
The idea works well, because the employer (Brands in this case) has the responsibility to make sure the workers perform and that they go back home in a timely fashion.
The objection always is that foreign workers shouldn't be allowed in when there are unemployed natives, but it's a pipe dream to think that all natives really want to work (especially when they don't have to)
People who don't see those facts as true when it comes to the US usually see it when it applies to France.
I saw young Polish waiters working in Irish hotels this summer.
I was reading an article in a 1901 Scribner's Magazine about immigrants. The writer had gone down to Ellis Island to watch the examination procedure. Among the many vignettes he wrote about, two grabbed my attention.
One young Polish guy was going to be sent back home because he didn't have any relatives to vouch for him and he had no money. The inspector berated him for trying to get into the country with no means of supporting himself. He told the inspector "I don't need money, I have this, which will make me money." and pointed to an instrument case. The inspector, sensing fraud, told him to take out and play the instrument.
He did, and the whole place was rooted in their tracks as the guy played the intermezzo from "Cavalleria Rusticana" on his cornet. The Pole said that he had a job waiting for him in Massachusetts and all he needed to do was get there. The inspector passed him and paid for his ticket to Fall River.
The other tale was of a three-generation family. The young man and woman, in their 20s, were accepted, but their child had some kind of physical disability and was sent back. Grandma and Grandpa went back with the kid instead of the mother. The writer and inspector stepped outside for a break and saw the husband and wife looking around their new country in bewilderment. The writer wondered what would become of the family. The inspector said not to worry, "They will live on nothing, as they have done, and in two years, at the most, those children will send for them. They are Poles and by tomorrow they will be working on something".
Would that we had their kind coming in today.
Its a simple question, we can find the key in the same text below:
This allows the Poles to earn in four months what they would earn in Poland in a whole year.
Poland has much lower than France, prices for food, housing, etc. (If Im allowed to use a Russian analogy here, the street price of an ice-cream in London, UK buys 10 ice-creams in Moscow). Thats why regular French wages are top generous for Poles. Even if were talking about low-payed jobs of plumbers, construction workers and nurses in places like Clichy-sous-Bois.
Usually these jobs are paid below the universally accepted living standard in a certain country. Local people dont take them up because of this simple fact. Immigrants are the factor which keeps the wages that low.
They keep locals out of work, the unemployed locals suck public money from welfare systems, busnesses pay higher taxes because of high social spending
Go figure!
"Sounds like Poland is the Mexico of Europe, with guest workers contracted for day/week labor"
Or France is the US of Europe.
It's better to be Mexico of Europe than New Orleans of Europe.
"He contends their work ethics have been ruined by their employment with the state. "
I've seen it up close. I took a job with the state department of finance in Nashville back in the late 70's. I had previously been employed by a local bank as a programmer. I would guess that the entire department was run by ten percent of the employees who really worked. We had one guy who hung out on the street corner with his friends most of the time and got caught at it! They couldn't fire the guy because he was civil service and a minority so they just ignored him. It was pathetic and frustraing trying to get some production out of these people.
Lets be honest here. The majority of the rioters are under the age of 18...the vast majority are still in school or have been kicked out for disciplinary reasons (which they can do at age 14 in France). Alot of these kids...are demonstrating exactly why businesses don't want to hire them. The French government can hand out all the cash it wants...but the bad taste of attitude is evident...and I sure would not hire a single one of these punks for any business I owned. And I'm sure the car industry would be laughing to get a resume from one of these arsonists.
The thing is that the sum 2000EUR by itself says about nothing. That may be a small sum, taking cost of living in France into account.
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