[George W. Bush]

Hagel just giving a very passionate (for him) defense of civil liberties re: The Patriot Act. Not exactly at Viagra level of passion but a healthy outlook on why we need to preserve domestically those things for which we are prepared to fight on foreign soils.

Hairplug Joe is such a joke by comparison. I was hoping Hagel would question his religion so Joe could try to ram his rosary beads down Chuck's throat.

[MNJohnnie]

Hagel just giving a very passionate (for him) defense of civil liberties re: The Patriot Act. Not exactly at Viagra level of passion but a healthy outlook on why we need to preserve domestically those things for which we are prepared to fight on foreign soils.

Please cite for me three specific instances where the Patriot Act has been used to infringe on Civil Liberties. Not generic "what ifs" but specific instances of real abuses.