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Mark Steyn: Wake up, Europe, you've a war on your hands
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 6, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/06/2005 3:14:50 AM PST by Puzzleman

Ever since 9/11, I've been gloomily predicting the European powder keg's about to go up. ''By 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots and assassinations on the news every night,'' I wrote in Canada's Western Standard back in February.

Silly me. The Eurabian civil war appears to have started some years ahead of my optimistic schedule.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europe; france; french; frenchmuslims; insurgency; markonthemark; marksteyn; muslim; parisriots; steyn; uprising
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To: kstewskis
You're right on the mark on the comment about sKerry.

We've got to defeat this disease of fanatical islam. If people don't like it then they need to get out of the way.

121 posted on 11/06/2005 8:50:33 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: kstewskis

We dodged the bullet when we defeated Kerry and his constant bowing and scraping to the French and the UN. I can't believe it's just luck. God had a hand in it. Well, and Jim R. and everyone else on FR did work very hard. Pajamahdeen!


122 posted on 11/06/2005 8:53:41 AM PST by hershey
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To: Puzzleman

Good read. Thanks for the post.


123 posted on 11/06/2005 8:54:52 AM PST by Rosemont
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To: kstewskis

In the present circumstances, Kerry's silence like that of Jesse and big Al Sharpton, is pretty funny.


124 posted on 11/06/2005 8:55:18 AM PST by hershey
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To: bronxboy

That's vital...that French people aren't so pacified by socialism that they die waiting for the govt. to fix everything. Endless meetings and silent marches will accomplish nothing, and every minute wasted is a minute closer to Muslim hegemony.


125 posted on 11/06/2005 8:57:50 AM PST by hershey
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Problem is, that like always-we can't save ourselves without saving France too. It's a sh*tty deal, but it's the only one we have ever had.

I'd like to understand why you think this because France and Continental Europe do not seem all that important anymore. Suppose all of continental Europe were overrun by Muslims and it became part of the caliphate. Is that profoundly different than if the caliphate were confined to the Middle East, from America's viewpoint?

Obviously, there are some differences and they would be bad differences. EG.

* Control of both sides of the Straits of Gibralter and the Mediteranean has some strategic significance. But Muslims will pretty much trash wherever they take over; so owning Europe would not give the the ability to produce European level technology for a long term.

* Obviously, it makes England's life a lot more difficult.

* Invasion of the Eurasian mainland is just as easy from central asia as it is from Europe.

* The world's formost powers would still be the US, China, India, Japan, Australia and the UK (the UK is a possible exception to my point--were the caliphate at its flanks, it would have to devote most of its attention to continental Europe and not to the rest of the world--it's ability to use it's power in the world would decline).

So while I would prefer that continental Europe not fall to Satan's armies, it doesn't strike me as the nail for which the kingdom was lost.

So it's not clear to me that France is all that important anymore. But I'm open to reasons to the contrary.

126 posted on 11/06/2005 8:59:26 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Paladin2

And of course, at the moment Kerry's plan remains a big secret. I can't help wondering what all this portends for Kerry's Presidential ambitions...


127 posted on 11/06/2005 9:01:53 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
We dodged the bullet when we defeated Kerry and his constant bowing and scraping to the French and the UN. I can't believe it's just luck. God had a hand in it. Well, and Jim R. and everyone else on FR did work very hard. Pajamahdeen!

Yes the Pajamahadeen! We need to start mobilizing again, and now. It seems that with each passing election year, the battle against the left, and now, the Islamofacisist wave that's hitting Europe, gets uglier and uglier.

I do believe we are on the verge of another revolution. That might sound pretty outlandish, but the environment is ripe, and it ain't pretty.

128 posted on 11/06/2005 9:04:41 AM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: hershey; Northern Yankee
In the present circumstances, Kerry's silence like that of Jesse and big Al Sharpton, is pretty funny.

Methinks that on the outside, they are silent...on the inside, they can hardly contain themselves.

Only if they acheive their goals, will their boastful selves be outspoken, and be on the platforms not unlike Marx, Stalin, Castro, et al...

129 posted on 11/06/2005 9:08:28 AM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: wita

re Bush's customary evisceration by every means humanly possible on the Sunday shows, I refuse to watch unless FR mentions something important. What do you think Bush is thinking about Paris's burning problem? And has he called Chirac to 'commiserate'? (Khadafi's already called to offer 'help'.) My, my, we do live in interesting times.


130 posted on 11/06/2005 9:12:48 AM PST by hershey
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To: gulfcoast6

We know Kerry thinks only about money, (how to get more without actually working for it). But he has a taxpayer paid staff of flunkies to write his speeches, statements, whatever. You can bet they're burning the midnight oil over this, and he's terrified Hillary will get in first with some suggestion for Chirac making her look like George S. Patton and Einstein.


131 posted on 11/06/2005 9:20:06 AM PST by hershey
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To: raybbr

And don't forget the great French military victory over Greenpeace.

Mark


132 posted on 11/06/2005 9:25:10 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: kstewskis

Horrible to contemplate, but we have to be realistic: Kerry and the rest will crawl to the Muslim diaspora in a NY minute. (If jammed in a train headed to a Nazi death camp and the ovens, they'd still be apologizing to Nazi butchers.) They'll appease and carry on until something they care about is torched, then it'll be Bush's fault for not preventing it. Crazy and stupid is a tough way to go through life, and they'll never admit the democratic party is both.


133 posted on 11/06/2005 9:27:11 AM PST by hershey
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To: EQAndyBuzz
As for France, I hope it continues to burn. I will never forgive them for stabbing the US in the back.

How very Christian of you.
134 posted on 11/06/2005 9:28:25 AM PST by Sirloin
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To: kstewskis

Don't time and events seem to be telescoping? Things we thought would take another ten or twenty years to come about are happening now. Thank God for the internet and JR. Imagine where we'd be, depending on the MSM for the truth. Well, that's why it's so important to keep the UN's bloody hands off of it and out of our pockets.


135 posted on 11/06/2005 9:30:50 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
Kerry and the rest will crawl to the Muslim diaspora in a NY minute. (If jammed in a train headed to a Nazi death camp and the ovens, they'd still be apologizing to Nazi butchers.)

You are spot on, Hershey.

136 posted on 11/06/2005 9:48:26 AM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: hershey
Don't time and events seem to be telescoping?

Yes, and I think it is for the reasons you mentioned...the internet, forums like FR that can pass this info around in real time, as opposed to the destructive liberal agenda of the MSM.

Like you said, "crazy and stupid is a tough way to go through life," but it's the path they chose to go...and will do anything they can to drag us along with them.

137 posted on 11/06/2005 9:51:26 AM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

The same people are shooting each other in broad daylight on downtown Toronto streets and nothing is being done. Okay, the cops are on strike for higher wages, but there's nothing being done about the CRIME.

When these guys realize that no matter what they do, nothing will be done, it'll happen here. Toronto has absolutely no defences. They'll be like the debris squatting in front of the NOLA Convention Centre screaming "WE WANT HELP!" and waiting for the Americans to come and put out the fires.

These things are already happening here and our pitiful mayor is offering them basketball courts and big hugs. And of course it won't be his home and car that's burning, so why would he really care?


138 posted on 11/06/2005 9:54:38 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: steveyp

If you get a chance, read "War As I Knew It", by General George Patton. He says close to the same thing but without Churchill's flair.


139 posted on 11/06/2005 10:05:38 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: King Prout

Great Thanks!

Mark Steyn BUMP


140 posted on 11/06/2005 10:19:31 AM PST by Tolik
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