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Can Hollywood Evade the Death Eaters?
NY Times ^ | November 6, 2005 | LAURA M. HOLSON

Posted on 11/06/2005 3:06:36 AM PST by Pharmboy


Steve Goldstein for The New York Times
Barry Meyer, left, the C.E.O. of
Warner Brothers, and Alan Horn,
president, are cutting costs as the
industry confronts changes in
movie-viewing habits.

BY all outward appearances, Warner Brothers Entertainment should be having one of its best years ever. For the 21st year in a row, it is expected to show a profit, propelled by a string of television hits like "ER," "The O.C." and "Friends," which is a hot seller on DVD. Warner has also revitalized its DC Comics movie franchise with the summer hit "Batman Begins." And later this month, it will release "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," the fourth installment of a juggernaut that has already brought in $3.7 billion.

But instead of the popping of Champagne corks, the sound you are likely to hear on the Warner lot is that of a cleaver falling. Executives have been poring over thick binders filled with next year's budget, hoping to cut hundreds of millions in studio expenses. Warner Brothers, the television and film production unit of Time Warner, is anticipating a slowdown in growth in its lucrative home video division. And that, combined with rising costs and uncertainty about new forms of digital distribution, has the studio fretting about its growth prospects.

On Tuesday, Warner laid off 260 employees, or about 6 percent of its staff of 4,500 in Burbank, Calif., with more job cuts expected overseas. And the studio is starting to re-evaluate everything from when and where it markets movies to how and what it pays its stars. Indeed, Warner executives met recently with agents at Creative Artists Agency and warned that top-tier actors, directors and producers would have to be flexible on upfront fees or else movies would be harder to make.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: entertainment; hollywood; layoffs; media
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To: ovrtaxt
The entertainment industry sucks. We can find more interesting things to do on the net, (or in REAL LIFE, imagine that...) and customize our content too.

I lost interest in movies permanently some years ago, when I realized my own fantasies are more entertaining than anything hollywood can heave up. And they're free.

21 posted on 11/06/2005 6:00:38 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Care to share?


22 posted on 11/06/2005 6:05:22 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: backhoe

Want to see some great movies try NetFlix and a series called Decalogue. It is a Polish TV program - 10 one hour shows on the Ten Commandments. Subtittles Yes - but they are powerful one hour stories on the morals of this time. The series came out in 1988 and watching the way people lived in Poland will also be a great lesson to kids on why the Soviets and Communists are gone. There is no preaching in this, but it will cause you to think about - have no Gods or Thou Shalt Not ___. The small pictures of 1988 Poland show how much the church was part of their questions about their society.


23 posted on 11/06/2005 6:14:01 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a
Want to see some great movies try NetFlix and a series called Decalogue. It is a Polish TV program - 10 one hour shows on the Ten Commandments. Subtittles Yes - but they are powerful one hour stories on the morals of this time. The series came out in 1988 and watching the way people lived in Poland will also be a great lesson to kids on why the Soviets and Communists are gone. There is no preaching in this, but it will cause you to think about - have no Gods or Thou Shalt Not ___. The small pictures of 1988 Poland show how much the church was part of their questions about their society.

Thanks for the tip- I'm a great admirer of the Polish people. Those who lived under the boot of Communism are usually the greatest advocates for freedom.

24 posted on 11/06/2005 6:17:35 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Pharmboy

Hollywood's devotion to socialism is an anchor around its neck. It will drag the American film industry to its death unless the studios realize that THEIR vision is badly out of synch with their CONSUMERS' vision. You can't sell a product nobody wants to buy, no matter how good YOU think it is.


25 posted on 11/06/2005 6:41:14 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack
Hollywood's devotion to socialism is an anchor around its neck.

Its devotion to obligatory sexual content is what keeps us away. I wanted to take my kids to see "Troy", the Alexander the Great movie, and the King Arthur flick until I found out there was nudity, sex scenes, bisexuality, etc. etc. Blecch - no thanks.

26 posted on 11/06/2005 6:47:12 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
There is a moral dimension to any art, and the moral message (where there even IS one) of Hollywood's films fails to resonate among their consumers. People go to movies for a lot of reasons, but families tend to seek out movies with some edifying theme, not just vignettes of overpaid girly-men emoting or chic urban ensembles prowling the sexual jungle.

Hollywood writers seem incapable of exploring anything but their own tiny, twisted world. Whoever they're writing for, it is not the consuming public.

Just as an example, I will bet that Jarhead, Jamie Foxx's latest anti-war yawner, fails dismally at the box office, while The Chronicles of Narnia, based on CS Lewis' morality allegories, makes a tidy profit. I will go so far as to say that Narnia will out-gross Jarhead.

27 posted on 11/06/2005 7:01:17 AM PST by IronJack
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To: KateatRFM
"public service" propaganda touting the gay agenda, lecturing us about recycling and cutting back on energy use, and demanding that we quit smoking.

I had to check your profile page to see where you live. The experience you describe would send me directly to the theater managers office. Our local theaters don't play commercials (yet). Preachy, political PSAs would be over the top.

You should tell the theater owner exactly what you just posted, verbally and in writing.

28 posted on 11/06/2005 7:23:32 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: szweig

The last true Movie "Stars" died off in the last generation, and the so-called celebrities of today are mere shells compared to once was. There really is no one these days that you could compare to men like an Eastwood, or a John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart or women like Crawford, Bacall or Stanwyck. There's no one around these days who for shear talent could be compared to any of these film legends, True stars through their own personal efforts. I could go on but it would be pointless.

I do feel that today's "Stars" are hampered both by combined factor of Hollywoods' writers political agenda and in many cases an unbelievable lack of talent by many of the young "performers" marketed to us these days. They are all simply there, so to speak, cause they look pretty(I don't know what his politics are, but Brad Pitt does come close to actual stardom).

I'm a Movie Buff, always have been, and always will be. But these days I am loathed to watch anything produced by "Follywood" simply because they have lost the magic touch of old, when they produced films that lifted your spirits and celebrated life, championed Liberty and True Justice, and sometimes sent you home not only feeling better about yourself, but gave you some things to think about.


29 posted on 11/06/2005 7:24:56 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: Pharmboy

Hollywood is in denial. They think they're well in the mainstream, their movies are extremely popular and they'd make billions upon billions if it weren't for pirates.

The only 2 good American movies I've seen in recent years that left me with a "wow, that was GOOD" feeling were Return of the King and March of the Penguin.


30 posted on 11/06/2005 7:29:43 AM PST by Seamoth
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To: Mr. C
There's no one around these days who for shear talent could be compared to any of these film legends...

Are you serious? Maybe today's actors don't have the monolithic studio system to create the PR glitz and glamour of the old Hedda Hopper and searchlight premiere days but there are plenty of amazing talents in the business.

I think the problem today is lack of cojones. Political correctness, the staggering costs of doing business in an all-union town, the studio groupthink's stagnant dedication to the adolescent demographic and socialist politics: all contribute to kill off real creativity, freedom of thought and risk-taking. Mel Gibson's recent defiance of Hollywood's conventional wisdom with "The Passion of the Christ" is an example of what could be done.

31 posted on 11/06/2005 8:14:19 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Hank Rearden
Great news!

“This title will be released on December 31, 1969.”

32 posted on 11/06/2005 8:30:03 AM PST by dighton
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To: Mr. C
There really is no one these days that you could compare to men like an Eastwood, or a John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart...

All the young male stars of today look like adolescents - DiCaprio, Orlando Bloom, Matt Damon... None look like grown-up MEN! It's like they're caught in some Peter Pan time-warp.

33 posted on 11/06/2005 8:50:07 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: ovrtaxt
when was the last time you listened to an FM station and heard them stray from the 20 or 30 songs approved by their format?

For "real" country music try the steam at KHYI.com. It's Texas oriented but then it's locally owned and operated.

34 posted on 11/06/2005 8:50:29 AM PST by fella (Political Correctness = Stuck On Stupid)
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To: dighton
“This title will be released on December 31, 1969.”

Hmm. I guess that means Amazon.com runs off a flavor of Unix...

35 posted on 11/06/2005 9:01:23 AM PST by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

We did -- and in fact Free Dominion organized a boycott of Famous Players theatres until they removed the gay propaganda from that mix. They now will tell you what time the actual movie begins -- if you ask -- so you can skip all the propaganda.


36 posted on 11/06/2005 9:51:27 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: Pharmboy

I feel HOllywood thinks if they throw in a few sex scenes and a few cuss words, it is a good movie ha ha ha


37 posted on 11/06/2005 10:09:21 AM PST by mel
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To: Bernard Marx

I will concede that Mel Gibson is a truly brilliant and creative talent, and I'll amend what I said by adding his name to those great Film legends of all time. I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that it's the inherent shallowness of this particular branch of the artistic community which is a major part of the problem. Simply put, in the old days there was something called "Screen Presence", i.e. the man or woman's ability to grab your attention when they were on screen and then hold it by convincing you they were that person whom they were portraying on the screen. Their attractiveness was important but not as important as their ability to act.

When Clint Eastwood played "Dirty Harry" to me that wasn't "Clint Eastwood playing Dirty Harry" That was Dirty Harry's Life and experiences being played out on the screen. It's the same for all the other Movies that were my favorites as a youth; The writing was good, the acting convincing and superb, the quality was there. I could go on and on, but I don't think I have to. The only recent example of this, and barely at that, was "Troy", whereas Pitt had me convinced that he was Achilles. It was ruined though in part due to Hollywood's narcissistic reliance on cheap sex and other thrills to "keep people interested".

Yes I agree with you it is a lack of cojones and all the other points you brought out. When I worked in the industry in the 1970's this "conversion" was just beginning to take root and we are now witnessing it's debilitating affects. It's rather depressing in many ways.


38 posted on 11/06/2005 10:10:14 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: Pharmboy

Very good comment...I thought I was the only one who thought that way...


39 posted on 11/06/2005 10:12:30 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

That's very true but I think it's more related to this "Metrosexual" phenonoma (or is it "Ubersexual" now?) that's being pushed these days. Actually, come to think of it, DiCaprio would be a great Peter -Pan now wouldn't he?


40 posted on 11/06/2005 10:13:32 AM PST by Mr. C
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