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ADF Intervenes, School Gives Wearer of Pro-Life Sweatshirts 'Green Light'
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| 11/4/05
| Jim Brown
Posted on 11/05/2005 11:11:51 AM PST by wagglebee
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Administrators had told Ramirez that the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school. I don't really care if Marxists are offended. What I do find offensive is the 40 million+ infants that have been butchered in this country over the last three decades.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:11:54 AM PST
by
wagglebee
To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:12:32 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
To me, the thing that is pertinent here is there is no way to state the message on his shirt is false.
It is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact and that should send a strong message to the kids who are led to believe it is about "privacy" rather than murder.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:16:01 AM PST
by
msnimje
("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
To: wagglebee
Good for Brian for standing up for himself and thanks to ADF for their work.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:16:29 AM PST
by
Mulch
(tm)
To: wagglebee
I read a very disturbing study about the statistics of abortion and the 2000 election, had abortion been still be outlawed then President Bush statistically would have lost easily to Gore, or even to Kerry for that matter.
If we ban it again then it is just a matter of time before the non-aborted get old enough to demand it be done again. Then their numbers drop, we win again and their numbers increase until they vote it in again, talk about a sick circle of life...
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:20:36 AM PST
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
To: msnimje
I would be inclined to say that a shirt showing an aborted fetus would probably be inappropriate to wear in in school (although I strongly believe that these images, however upsetting they may be to some, should be seen by high school students). Short of that, I fail to see the problem. What I find most alarming is the fact that it is now "fashionable" for students to wear shirts with pictures of Che Guevara, who personally murdered hundreds and was responsible for the death and torture of thousands; however, I have yet to see wear schools are banning these shirts.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:23:10 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
I would be inclined to say that a shirt showing an aborted fetus would probably be inappropriate to wear in in school...
I agree.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:24:26 AM PST
by
msnimje
("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
To: msnimje
Whenever they spout the buzz word "privacy", retort that what they really want is the "right to secretly abort."
Don't let the "privacy" buzz word stand.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:26:43 AM PST
by
i_dont_chat
(Houston, TX)
To: Abathar
I question the findings of such a study. I am passionatly pro-life; however, I do not believe it is the federal government's role to ever "outlaw" abortion. All that would be done by overturning Roe v. Wade is to return jurisdiction to the individual states and they could either leave it alone or make it illegal. Many of the "blue states" like Californian and New York would certainly keep it legal. The difference is that for the first time in decades, abortion would be out from control of unelected federal judges.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:28:32 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
"I do not believe it is the federal government's role to ever "outlaw" abortion."
Are you saying this becaue you believe there should be no federal laws outlawing murder? Or, because of the unique circumstances of abortion...i.e. the victim is inside a woman, that this should prevent the feds from becoming involved?
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:44:12 AM PST
by
fizziwig
To: fizziwig
There is no federal law outlawing murder (except for murder that occurs on federal property).
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
-- Amendment 10
This is a matter of state sovereignty. If we decide that it is the role of the federal government to begin making laws such as these, the entire purpose of having individual sovereign states becomes meaningless.
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posted on
11/05/2005 11:55:01 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
Senior Brian Ramirez was recently forced to serve an in-school suspension... The student also was penalized with a zero grade for each day's lab missed while in suspension, and informed that for each day he continued to wear clothing bearing a pro-life message he would remain on suspension. Anyone in the school administration now serving a similar penalty to those imposed on this innocent young man?
Perhaps a suspension without pay is in order.
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posted on
11/05/2005 12:00:40 PM PST
by
RJL
To: wagglebee
Remember in the 80's when Wham! first came out? George Michael wore that "Choose Life" t-shirt in the video. Lots of kids were wearing that on their t-shirts soon after. Where was the outrage THEN!
To: wagglebee
the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school...............
One of, if not the main, assault on the American way of life as we once knew it is the teaching profession - from the pre-K thru PhD. We have given up the local control of our teachers and public schools and can no longer complain when one of the teachers spreads their liberal beliefs. We also have to take the blame for not appearing to care - how many of us attend the local school board meetings? the parents nights? any school function?
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posted on
11/05/2005 12:22:35 PM PST
by
momf
(Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all . T Roosevelt)
To: momf
And the ACLU was where on this case?
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posted on
11/05/2005 12:40:04 PM PST
by
kjo
To: Abathar
>> a sick circle of life...
A believe the term is "dans macabre".
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posted on
11/05/2005 12:41:46 PM PST
by
HKMk23
("In a land of moral imbeciles, I knew I could be king." -- Aaron Tonken, Celebrity Manipulator)
To: wagglebee
Administrators had told Ramirez that the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school....We were mistaken.
But because God was not included with the Pro-Life statement, its OK. I sometimes wonder if these lefties are more anti-God than anti-life.
To: wagglebee
Do you feel the same way about homosexual marriage or polygamy?
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posted on
11/05/2005 12:56:38 PM PST
by
em2vn
To: em2vn
Do you feel the same way about homosexual marriage or polygamy? Absolutely not!
A homosexual or polygamous marriage in one state would become an issue if the people moved to a different state. This would clearly become an issue in terms of the "full faith and credit" clause in Article IV of the Constitution.
As much as I would wish for every state to ban abortion, a woman would be allowed to travel to a state which allows abortion. The abortion would occur in one state and the other state's laws would not apply. In simpler terms, some states allow the sale and use of fireworks while others don't, there is no prohibition from someone travelling to a different state and using fireworks there.
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posted on
11/05/2005 1:07:43 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: kjo
Doesn't matter. Just look at what the 9th out west said. WE don't matter, WE cannot think. WE are incapable of deciding what is best for our children. WE have NO rights over the public school system. Thank The LORD my kids are grown and gone.
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