[wagglebee]

Administrators had told Ramirez that the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school.

I don't really care if Marxists are offended. What I do find offensive is the 40 million+ infants that have been butchered in this country over the last three decades.

[wagglebee]

Ping.

[msnimje]

To me, the thing that is pertinent here is there is no way to state the message on his shirt is false.
It is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact and that should send a strong message to the kids who are led to believe it is about "privacy" rather than murder.

[Mulch]

Good for Brian for standing up for himself and thanks to ADF for their work.

[Abathar]

I read a very disturbing study about the statistics of abortion and the 2000 election, had abortion been still be outlawed then President Bush statistically would have lost easily to Gore, or even to Kerry for that matter.
If we ban it again then it is just a matter of time before the non-aborted get old enough to demand it be done again. Then their numbers drop, we win again and their numbers increase until they vote it in again, talk about a sick circle of life...

[RJL]

Senior Brian Ramirez was recently forced to serve an in-school suspension... The student also was penalized with a zero grade for each day's lab missed while in suspension, and informed that for each day he continued to wear clothing bearing a pro-life message he would remain on suspension.

Anyone in the school administration now serving a similar penalty to those imposed on this innocent young man?

Perhaps a suspension without pay is in order.

[toothfairy86]

Remember in the 80's when Wham! first came out? George Michael wore that "Choose Life" t-shirt in the video. Lots of kids were wearing that on their t-shirts soon after. Where was the outrage THEN!

[momf]

the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school...............

One of, if not the main, assault on the American way of life as we once knew it is the teaching profession - from the pre-K thru PhD. We have given up the local control of our teachers and public schools and can no longer complain when one of the teachers spreads their liberal beliefs. We also have to take the blame for not appearing to care - how many of us attend the local school board meetings? the parents nights? any school function?

[evolved_rage]

Administrators had told Ramirez that the pro-life messages were offensive to certain teachers at the school.

...We were mistaken.

But because God was not included with the Pro-Life statement, its OK. I sometimes wonder if these lefties are more anti-God than anti-life.

[Cicero]

If Roe and Casey are reversed, as you say, it will return the question of abortion to the states where it was earlier.

The situation when Roe v. Wade was pronounced was that almost every state outlawed abortion but a few, such as New York, were in the process of legalizing it. We will not necessarily return to that situation, since people have had decades to get used to the idea of legalized abortion as "normal," whereas previously they had had centuries to get used to the idea that abortion was a shameful crime.

So, it would be fought out in the states. Probably in most conservative states, most abortions will be outlawed, and in some states all abortions. Possibly the laws will revert to what was in effect prior to Roe, possibly lawyers will argue that the old laws no longer apply and that if people want abortion outlawed the matter must be revisited.

There is at least some possibility that a constitutional right can be found to say that abortion is a crime. The great analogy is slavery. When the constitution was written it gave all men equal rights, but it didn't say "women" and it winked at slavery. Later, it came to be seen that the right to equality should include women and slaves. But just to make sure, amendments were passed to confirm it.

It depends on the definition of "natural person." it is now agreed that women and children and former slaves are natural persons with all constitutional rights. It COULD be decided that unborn children also are persons--as, indeed, science says they are. They are human, they are living, they are unique persons in their own right.

The constitutional right of an unborn child to life would certainly have to be fought out, however, and is unlikely to be asserted anytime soon.

[davidosborne]

Bttt