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Joe Wilson: Lying About Iraqi Uranium
Hawaii Reporter ^ | 11/3/2005 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 11/05/2005 7:02:53 AM PST by kellynla

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Oct 24., 2005, said it best: “Bush is now fighting a war on two fronts.”

Iraqi voters are once more dealing a sharp blow to al-Qaeda’s war on America and the parallel war on Bush being waged by the Democrat Party and the Democrat media. Al-Qaeda is waging war by continuing to bomb Iraqi civilians. Democrats are trying to fight with a battle plan based on the delusion that Iraq is Vietnam, Bush is Nixon and Watergate must be there somewhere.

Feeling if they turn over enough rocks they will find the one labeled “impeachment,” on Oct. 28 Democrats hailed the indictment of White House aide Scooter Libby on charges of lying to a grand jury. The grand jury did not charge anyone for “outing” Valerie Plame the CIA analyst who connived to get her Kerry-supporter husband assigned to investigate Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium in Niger, Africa. This may be due to the fact that she was not a secret agent and therefore revealing her name to the media is not a crime. Her identity has been known to the Cubans and even was discovered by the Soviets. That is why she was at a desk job instead of being in the field. Libby apparently faces charges for not testifying: “I did it. It is not a crime. I am proud of it.”

The real Iraq scandal is the lies being told by Democrats, with Plame's husband Joe Wilson leading the way, in an effort to “get Bush” without regard for their effect on our troops in combat and al-Qaeda’s perception that Americans are “weak and decadent infidels.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cialeak; demlies; iraq; uranium; wmd
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To: ClaireSolt
We need a very effective strategy to discourage it.

Its either put up with the Goebbels like tactics of the left or take care of the problem the old fashioned way.

At some point patriots will run out of patience and will no longer have the luxury of tolerating the enemy within.

41 posted on 11/05/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: kellynla

Wonder why this is never reported:

Niger's former prime minister Ibrahim Mayaki had actually told him an Iraqi team indeed visited Niger in 1999 in what Mayaki thought was a mission to buy uranium -- Niger's main export. Niger's former mining minister even told Wilson another lot of Iraqis tried to buy 40 tonnes of uranium a year earlier.


42 posted on 11/05/2005 11:50:59 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
You mean to say the UN KNEW IN ADVANCE that madman had enriched uranium? Either way, he did have yellow cake. Seeking, Hxll-- he HAD it.

Yes, BUSH KNEW ABOUT IT! President George H. W. Bush downplayed any threat from the stockpiles, and together with the inspectors, allowed it. Clinton continued the policy.

For example, see this December 17, 1999, press release snippet (http://www.nci.org/pr/pr121799.htm):

[Nuclear Control Institute] has learned that in late 1991 or early 1992, IAEA officials decided to allow Iraq to retain 1.7 metric tons of uranium enriched to 2.6% U-235 (low-enriched uranium, or “LEU”), as well as some 13 tons of natural uranium stocks. The Gulf War cease-fire resolution required that Iraq surrender all of its “nuclear-weapons-usable material” and not “acquire or develop” such material in the future. Iraq’s bomb-grade, highly enriched uranium (HEU), which it had diverted from a research reactor for conversion into a nuclear bomb at the start of Operation Desert Storm, was removed by airlift by February 1994, along with other uranium with enrichments as low as 10%.

“According to officials involved in these decisions at the time, the IAEA decided to permit Iraq to keep its LEU and natural uranium stocks for possible future use in a ‘peaceful’ nuclear program,” said Steven Dolley, NCI Research Director. “Agency officials also concluded that the cost of removing these materials from Iraq would be prohibitive, even though Iraq was required under U.N. mandate to pay all such expenses.”

The deadline for annual, routine inspection of this material, required under Iraq’s pre-Gulf War safeguards agreement with the IAEA, expired this week. Iraq has refused to issue visas to the IAEA inspectors, thereby blocking the inspection---a violation of its safeguards obligation under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Shortly after the Gulf War, IAEA and Bush Administration officials downplayed the risk of Iraq's LEU and natural uranium stocks, assuming that Iraq would not be technically capable of enriching the uranium to weapons-grade. However, Iraq’s development of high-speed centrifuges had advanced to the point that the deployment of a small, well-concealed centrifuge enrichment facility cannot be ruled out.
Considering the fact that I was critical of President H.W. Bush's softness on this at the time, I think it's ridicuous of you to shout at me about it when it's a Bush decision, not mine!

See http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd.html, "...excerpts from an October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate . . . declassified on July 18, 2003 and presented at a White House background briefing on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.":

Iraq retains approximately two-and-a-half tons of 2.5 percent enriched uranium oxide, which the IAEA permits. This low-enriched material could be used as feed material to produce enough HEU for about two nuclear weapons. The use of enriched feed material also would reduce the initial number of centrifuges that Baghdad would need by about half. Iraq could divert this material -- the IAEA inspects it only once a year -- and enrich it to weapons grade before a subsequent inspection discovered it was missing. The IAEA last inspected this material in late January 2002.

Iraq has about 500 metric tons of yellowcake1 and low enriched uranium at Tuwaitha, which is inspected annually by the IAEA. Iraq also began vigorously trying to procure uranium ore and yellowcake; acquiring either would shorten the time Baghdad needs to produce nuclear weapons.

And now, based on what you say, everyone in the UN knew he was sitting on 500 tons. It sure wasn't known by a lot of democrat senators, it would appear. [emphasis added]

Well, just because you weren't aware of the UN tagging program doesn't mean our Senators were as ignorant (though you did say Dem senators, so perhaps they were... ;-)

The idea was, the materials are there and locked/tagged, and inspectors saw they weren't being tampered with. When I first saw people posting about "700 tons of yellowcake" here...I thought they meant un-tagged, since there was never any question about the tagged stuff except that the inspectors hadn't been allowed in very recently. So finding the tagged stuff in place just strengthens Saddam's case that he hadn't touched it.

The problem is, there's barking up the wrong tree.
The fact is, without inspections, who knew what could have been done!? It's the inspectors who allowed enriched uranium to remain, against the agreement.

What needs to be pointed out to the public is that he had this material, and even though we knew he had it ahead of time and it wasn't touched, that's irrelevant to what could have been going on--and without proper inspections, we had to take action.

It's all about the context, my FRiend. :-)

43 posted on 11/05/2005 11:53:01 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Mike Darancette

Pincus and Corn.


44 posted on 11/05/2005 1:07:40 PM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: Rome2000

I am getting very tired of this bs. We may have to do something drastic, if Iran makes us fight them.


45 posted on 11/05/2005 1:31:55 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Somebody forgot to tell Dowd that quite a few New York Times editors and reporters had been working for US intelligence for many many years in violation both of US law, CIA rules, and NYT rules. That is one reason they have access to so many leaks (quid pro quo with their handlers).

Miller can make them stand on their heads and wear clown hats if she wants.

The administration could also end this dirty game any time it wants if they really felt threatened.
46 posted on 11/05/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: ez
I think if every MSM watching American in the country were told point blank tonight that Saddam had 500 tons of yellow-cake Uranium available to make nukes as soon as sanctions were lifted, they would be amazed.

Agreed. But they'd also be amazed to have a President who doesn't seem to think that it's important to stress.

47 posted on 11/05/2005 2:11:00 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
your right. this is the worst pr machine in history. Scott who? Americans do not care if you don't speak the language perfectly or if you miss pronounce names. they do care if you do not communicate directly and allow a hostile press and the minority party to set the propaganda agenda. pitiful.
48 posted on 11/05/2005 2:22:14 PM PST by fantom
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To: kellynla
MEMORIALIZED IN SONG
49 posted on 11/05/2005 3:46:07 PM PST by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: doug from upland

bookmarking


51 posted on 11/05/2005 4:39:51 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: Gondring

And now, BTW, CNN recently reported that Bush is seriously considering allowing Chavez to get nuclear technology! If true [it is CNN after all], it could be for oil. It's been dubbed "the Dog Biscuit Strategy". [link coming on next post, God willing.]

I'm glad you are informing us about all of this. Sorry if you felt I was angry at you. But when I blast out at a concept, if you agree with me, no worries. And if you disagree, no worries. We're all just swapping thoughts, information, and some swap hair style tips.

My anger was directed squarely at the concept that nuclear material should not mean ending the ceasefire. I assumed Saddam's rogue behavior need not be repeated. The thought didn't occur to me that you compartmentalized. So I'm glad I wasn't more direct in my outburst.

"The fact is, without inspections, who knew what could have been done!? It's the inspectors who allowed enriched uranium to remain, against the agreement."

It was a silly agreement at the outset. Allowing the Butcher of Baghdad to hold uranium when his people have all the energy they need in oil? Why not hand out a bunch of sulfur to violent inmates, while they're at it? Inmates could do far less damage with 500 tons of sulfur than Saddam with 500 tons of uranium. [But get the national guard ready for those inmates!]


52 posted on 11/06/2005 5:37:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: Gondring; All

BUSH, CHAVEZ, AND NUKES
CNN.com - Bush appears open to Venezuela nuclear power
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/11/02/venezuela.ap/?section=cnn_world

Nov 2, 2005
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Despite tense relations with Venezuela, President George W. Bush says it might be OK for the South American nation to have a nuclear reactor for peaceful energy uses.
Bush acknowledged he had not heard about Venezuela's request for a reactor when asked about it Tuesday in an interview with Latin American reporters ... But he didn't reject the idea... [snip]
FR Discussion Opened Here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1504225/posts?page=8#8


53 posted on 11/06/2005 5:51:17 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: p23185

"Am I dreaming?"

I've been sensing a shifting tone in the media, myself. A similar thing happened several years ago, when a blue stained dress was reported. They did rally back together a few weeks later, though. But when the truth is hurting them badly, they get pretty ticked off at whoever led them into that mess.


54 posted on 11/06/2005 5:56:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
In the 1890s, America had Open-Door Diplomacy under McKinley.
In the 1990s, America had Open-Wallet Diplomacy under Clinton.

And now Bush might have Dog-Biscuit Diplomacy?!? Yikes!

And...

I'm glad you are informing us about all of this. Sorry if you felt I was angry at you. But when I blast out at a concept, if you agree with me, no worries. And if you disagree, no worries. We're all just swapping thoughts, information, and some swap hair style tips.

We're cool then....just no hair-style tips for me, please! I gots only two styles for my two hairs left... The weave: x:-) and the mohawk: =:-) I refuse to do a combover.... ":-)

Sheesh..I need sleep!

55 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:54 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: kellynla

This whole affair has a Scott Ritter smell about it. Wilson and his woman appear to be useful tools for our liberals.


56 posted on 11/06/2005 7:22:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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