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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: T'wit
killed her silently out in the hall, and vanished before her husband -- awakened by the very sound of her fall -

Do you believe Terri's fall woke Michael?

921 posted on 12/16/2005 5:47:23 AM PST by syriacus (People who seem "nutty" can STILL be dangerous bombers -- Edw. Leary firebombed NYC subway 1994)
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To: T'wit
without waking her husband, killed her silently out in the hall,

But, Terri wasn't killed, by stabbing, by gunshot or by strangulation. She lived. Perhaps no one intended to kill her, but only intended to keep her quiet.

Perhaps that person "accidentally" suffocated her, but she recovered. Neighbors didn't report Terri shouting for help. Were there any reports of a disturbance that night?

It would seem that one can chose between

1. the story that Terri collapsed or
2. the story that Terri was quietly injured by someone.
Which of these options do you chose to believe? Maybe I am missing a third option? I'm open to your input.

There are ways to suffocate/silence people that leave little evidence

Burking originally referred to killing by closing the nose with two fingers or inserting fingers in the nostrils and then clamping the mouth shut with thumb or elbow, suffocating the victim.

People can be suffocated if they are held in a manner that prevents chest expansion, too.

922 posted on 12/16/2005 6:09:30 AM PST by syriacus (People who seem "nutty" can STILL be dangerous bombers -- Edw. Leary firebombed NYC subway 1994)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
Terri's plight is being brought up in a thread by paulat:

Alive - after 63 days under rubble (I CAN'T IMAGINE THE HORROR)

8mm


923 posted on 12/16/2005 7:08:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter; All
From the Post Chronicle, Dustin Hawkins:

Yet Williams' was still placed high on a pedestal of greatness. People who fought for Terri Schiavo to be taken off of life support fought for Stanley "Tookie" Williams to be kept on it. Williams was treated as the Jesus of the left.

Liberals Lose Their Jesus

8mm

924 posted on 12/16/2005 7:15:11 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; TaxRelief; cyn; tutstar; EternalVigilance; Halls; Lesforlife; Dante3; amdgmary; kenth; ..
Wow. Like I said, now the Tookie supporters know how extermination feels.

Change of topic: Dr. Dave Weldon, FL U.S. House of Representatives who is fighting the good fight in Congress is going on tour playing bass. This is a great holiday story:

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4252235&nav=0Rce

(Weldon's on M. Schiavo's black list)

925 posted on 12/16/2005 7:33:41 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: syriacus
>> But, you'll have to admit, it sure is an "attention-getting" question.

No, it isn't. It is a puny little fairy story with no relation to known evidence or motive. It won't hold up to examination. It sounds like one more sycophantic reporter handing Schiavo one more untenable alibi.

If you want to grab attention, go for the truth. Ask the questions a real homicide investigator would ask. Probe the shifting alibis that Schiavo tried to use in his testimony, and question him about inconsistencies.

In the Autopsy Report, one gets just the new evidence needed in order to ask Schiavo tough questions about what actually happened. The M.E. confirmed that Terri never had a heart attack. The damage she suffered when she was deprived of oxygen was not global, either. No organs were affected below her head. So, we may safely deduce that Terri didn't "collapse" at all. Something happened to her from the neck up.

A real investigator would certainly want to dig into this. The insurance companies might want to pursue it too because Schiavo's malpractice suit(s) were fraudulent.

The autopsy revealed one other surprising detail that may be the final piece in the puzzle: the damage to Terri's brain was primarily in the front areas fed by the carotid arteries. That gives us the probable cause of her injuries. Somebody put enough pressure on her carotid arteries, for long enough, to leave her all-but lifeless on the floor.

Now as before, there is only one suspect.

926 posted on 12/16/2005 7:38:29 AM PST by T'wit (Hell: eternity listening to Ted Kennedy Barbara Boxer, ABBA's "Dancing Queen" & telemarketers)
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To: syriacus
>> Do you believe Terri's fall woke Michael?

No, do you? There is good reason to think she did not fall.

927 posted on 12/16/2005 7:40:35 AM PST by T'wit (Hell: eternity listening to Ted Kennedy Barbara Boxer, ABBA's "Dancing Queen" & telemarketers)
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To: syriacus
Lightbulb goes off. If Michael says he was asleep and Terri was PRETENDING TO BE ASLEEP, nobody there would have been up. So why was she up wandering in the hallway as per Michael Schiavo? Maybe somebody else did do it.

Terri's own plan to feign sleep doesn't jive with her walking around near the bathroom and making a thud in the hall. Michael's words "a thud and it was Terri." Larry King Live transcript.

Remember that woman who wrote all those murder mysteries with the Inspector? She wrote a lot of novels that were made into movies.

I think you may be on to something syriacus.

928 posted on 12/16/2005 7:40:57 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: syriacus

FYI: The answer may be in Tampa.


929 posted on 12/16/2005 7:43:50 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: T'wit

Terri told her friend that she was going to pretend to be asleep when he came home. Pretending to be asleep and walking around doesn't make sense. HINO's still lying about many things but maybe not about finding her in the hall if he had help.


930 posted on 12/16/2005 7:46:30 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: syriacus

2. the story that Terri was quietly injured by someone


Since there was no one else in the apartment, I'll take the liberty of changing 'someone' to Michael Schiavo, Terri's hot-headed husband.

It doesn't take much for a frightened (I'll pretend to be asleep when michael comes home) 5'2" woman to be 'quieted' by a 6'7" man.


931 posted on 12/16/2005 7:49:38 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: syriacus
Agatha Christie. That night does not jive. But, remember Jodi's mom worked at the Sheriff's Dept. the same Sheriff's Dept. that hired HINO to work in the women's jail as a nurse. His license is under investigation as he lied about his credentials and education on his application.

How would you like to be a woman in that jail?

This is why I'm against Everett Rice becoming Florida's Attorney General. He was the Sheriff who voted against Terri when he became a non-elected house member after he gave HINO his job earlier this year at the Sheriff's Dept.

Rice is another GOP in with Judge Greed(r).

IF THEY'RE FROM PINELLAS COUNTY, DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE FOR A STATE OFFICE. They are members of Florida's medicaid fraud and death care system. In up to their eyeballs.

932 posted on 12/16/2005 7:50:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser; amdgmary
I must say though about TOOKIE, I doubt he had millions of supporters and volunteers as Terri's fight did and still has.

www.terrisfight.org

933 posted on 12/16/2005 7:54:08 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Forced Exits 'R Murder - Call Your Congressman)
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To: syriacus
>> But, Terri wasn't killed, by stabbing, by gunshot or by strangulation.

Not in the real world. We are, after all, discussing a fairy story here -- your fairy story -- not the facts of the case.

I was scoffing at the notion that some mystery assailant pulled her out of bed and left her for dead on the floor, all without a sound or a fight from Terri, and all without disturbing Schiavo's sleep. The same Michael Schiavo who claimed to be awakened instantly by the sound of Terri falling.

As I said, that's preposterous.

934 posted on 12/16/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by T'wit (Hell: eternity listening to Ted Kennedy Barbara Boxer, ABBA's "Dancing Queen" & telemarketers)
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To: presently no screen name

Law enforcement never did a true investigation. If they believed HINO from the get to, they would not have dusted for footprints, etc. A homicide file was opened on Terri that could have been re-classified. It never was.


935 posted on 12/16/2005 7:56:13 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Forced Exits 'R Murder - Call Your Congressman)
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To: syriacus

Michael and his cohorts insist he didn't do anything to Terri, so why not start there and ask if anyone might have harmed Terri?


First - WHO are his cohorts? Where they in the apartment?

Second - if MS didn't even 'go there', someone entering apartment, why are you?


936 posted on 12/16/2005 8:03:52 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 8mmMauser
8mmMauser - Yes, the left supported and fought for a murderer and no support of one that was murdered by torture.

I say the CA Gov should get an award for "allowing the execution" of a known murderer to go forth much like greer and ms received one for the 'court-appointed' torture that led to the subsequent murder of a disabled person who never had HER day in court. The justice in these two cases are as far as the east is from the west.
937 posted on 12/16/2005 8:28:46 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 8mmMauser
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/

Schiavo Updates & Commentary at bottom of screen. URL worth re-posting.

938 posted on 12/16/2005 8:30:49 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Forced Exits 'R Murder - Call Your Congressman)
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To: floriduh voter
Law enforcement never did a true investigation


When there is collusion and corruption, there never is. Or if any was done, files will be 'lost' and 'spin' will be 'in'. corruption to protect 'evil' - reminds me of the Holloway case.
939 posted on 12/16/2005 8:33:44 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 8mmMauser
Fourth Amendment rights under attack:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/politics/15cnd-program.html?ei=5065&en=80681ada74c04ce9&ex=1135314000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

940 posted on 12/16/2005 8:38:33 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Forced Exits 'R Murder - Call Your Congressman)
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