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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: syriacus

The complex they lived at was really pretty upscale on the way out of St. Pete to the causeway to Tampa. Terri's brother Bobby lived there too but in another building. There are lots of bldgs, some gazebos and a curvy parking lot. I have no idea if Mikey acted alone but it took him a long time to do anything. Then Bobby showed up to see what the heck was going on.


841 posted on 12/13/2005 8:53:03 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: 8mmMauser; tutstar; russesjunjee; Halls; Theodore R.; Dante3; Wampus SC
BREAKING NEWS FROM TAMPA BAY:

Judge James Whittemore who refused to restore Terri's feeding tube and give her hydration's friend JOE REDNER, THE X-RATED KING OF TAMPA ANNOUNCED TODAY IN THE MEDIA THAT HE IS "GAY".

Is Judge Whittemore gay too? Did he go along with Terri's murder because he doesn't really care about the ladies?????

(except for Felos' ex-wife because she RECOMMENDED HIM FOR HIS JOB AS FED CRT JUDGE, TAMPA MIDDLE DISTRICT.)

Whittemore should have recused himself but he couldn't because he was part of the plot. PART OF THE PLOT. There was nothing random about Judge Whittemore getting the legal documents from the U.S. Congress. The de novo hearing never happened. Judge Whittemore helped Judge Greer and other judges kill her. If Whittemore is gay, what a bombshell. Some gay guys like women but some hate them with every fiber of their being.

842 posted on 12/13/2005 8:58:08 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: amdgmary; Ohioan from Florida; pickyourpoison; wildandcrazyrussian
Against Florida State Statutes 744:309(1)(b) and Judicial Canon (personal knowledge of a case), Judge George W. Greer, a typical Florida lawyer, appointed HIMSELF Proxy Guardian of Theresa Schiavo - the judge became a litigant in a case in which HE was also the judge, making this one of the most legally corrupt trials for the world to see.

excerpted from www.judgegeorgegreer.com

843 posted on 12/13/2005 9:11:50 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: 8mmMauser
TERRIPAC from FEC web page:

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_detail/C00417576/

844 posted on 12/13/2005 9:22:13 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: floriduh voter

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Pervert through and through.


845 posted on 12/13/2005 10:22:48 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Some NBC Soap Opera with "Ethan and Noah" is doing a Terri Schiavo story line right now....................

I don't watch soaps, so I don't know which it is, just happened to catch it.


846 posted on 12/13/2005 11:14:08 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: floriduh voter
Is Terri on the AOL search list? I got cross eyed reading that list.

Yes, it is halfway down in the category of top news stories.

847 posted on 12/13/2005 11:23:05 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
BTW, I saw a couple of minutes of Dan Abrams on Friday. He had two of his guests declare that Terri Schiavo wanted to die. I had someone drop in and do not know if anyone correct them or not. Abrams sure did not break into it with a correction.

How strange that Michael would blame the Republicans. Greer catered to his every whim. Rev. Jesse Jackson came out for the Terri's family - and I sure would not label him a Republican.

848 posted on 12/13/2005 12:20:58 PM PST by Dante3
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To: floriduh voter

"If Whittemore is gay, what a bombshell"

He would probably not tell on himself with his career and all, however we know how close Redner and Whittemore have been in the past. I hope the voters know about the connection and give Whittemore the boot next election, so spread the word in Hillsbourgh County.


849 posted on 12/13/2005 12:43:29 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: pickyourpoison

Federal Crt Judges like Whittemore are appointed. Whittemore was appointed by Clinton, no big surprise.


850 posted on 12/13/2005 2:30:17 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: Dante3

That was quite a trick for him to pull on the Republican Party after all they did for him here in Pinellas Cty. I notice he never talks about how grateful he is to Judge Greed and J. Whittnomore. Anyway, RINOS get what they deserve.


851 posted on 12/13/2005 2:40:21 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org ENDORSING REAL REPUBLICANS ONLY ck it out)
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To: 8mmMauser

"Tonight is planned, efficient, calculated, antiseptic, cold-blooded murder and I think everyone who is here is here to try to enlist the morality and soul of this country," said Baez, who sang "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" on a small plywood stage set up just outside the gates.




This is what happened to Terri not the murderer, tookie! There is none so blind as those who refuse to see.


852 posted on 12/13/2005 3:51:06 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I don't recall Baez coming to Terri's defense. Or did I miss it?


853 posted on 12/13/2005 4:15:48 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

;)

You didn't miss anything, YOU are very well informed. "THEY" missed it.


854 posted on 12/13/2005 4:34:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: floriduh voter
"Dumb Americans believe propaganda and on Terri, many were brainwashed beyond repair. They'll wake up with the ACLU tells than where to live and what to have for breakfast. "

You're exactly right, FV. Most of the coverage concerning Terri was indeed propaganda. They used the same code word of *right to privacy* as is used to kill little tiny babies, to execute her. Felos and the rest constantly said it was about the *right to die*. What a total lie that was. Terri was forced to die. She didn't request death.

Right now, I'm listening to a live stream from KFI radio in California. The host is talking about last nights execution. He went on to rant and rave about how he and some of his fellow hosts were RIGHT about different subjects in the past as well as being RIGHT about William's execution. I'm listening to his bragging and then got sick to hear him mention one of those examples - *HE* said HE was RIGHT about Terri Schiavo, when HE said she was NOT there. He then says the **right wing wackos politicians** said she WAS still there and he was right cause HE said she was NOT....and etc. I wish you all could have heard him. Not that it was pleasant, but because we need to know what kind of propaganda we are up against. His words were so slimy as he bragged about being Right about Terri's condition. He's dead wrong, imo.

I've never listened to this guy before, so I don't know if he's Liberal or what. However, I do know Clear Channel Radio mostly has Republican supporting hosts. To hear him spread more LIES about Terri and also to bash people like Tom Delay and even the President, when he used his very general use of the *right winged wacko* comment, was sickening to say the least. I don't understand this constant bashing of people who tried to help an American family save the life of their daughter/sister.

Talk about them being BEYOND REPAIR, as you mentioned earlier. They appear to have lost their sense of RIGHT and WRONG or are intentionally spreading misinformation. This guy has a very large platform to brainwash the masses in California. I wonder where this Radio Host got his information on Terri??? He is clearly on the side of the death penalty as is obvious from what he is saying about the Williams execution as I type this post. Williams was a murderer and had years to appeal his case - approx 26 years.

This guy uses Terri's name, while discussing Williams. How ironic is that? I wonder if he realizes that both were in fact court ordered executions, but very very different. Terri was innocent, but got no Due Process, didn't get years of appeals, conducted by top notch premiere lawyers, like Williams did. I doubt he realizes he was on the same side as was the ACLU, when he supported killing Terri. This particular radio host, like so many others, is just using Terri's name to arrogantly bash those who are not on board with the Culture of Death. His name, as I've continued to listen, is Zigler and he seems to be a GOP supporter. Zigler was promoted as a favorite radio host on a thread here on FR tonight. I love talk radio, so I clicked on the link, but sure didn't expect to hear Terri's name.
855 posted on 12/13/2005 9:13:52 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: 8mmMauser

The usual suspects were clamoring to spare Tookie's life and make some kind of hero out of him.

This is their pattern:

A convicted multiple murderer who brags and jokes about his crimes -- save his life and nominate him for a Nobel Prize.

A brain damaged woman who did no more wrong than to marry the wrong guy - kill.

An injured, but fully conscious and lucid man - kill.

Their pattern is to exalt the evil, kill the innocent. Those who took that stand against Terri and Jimmy - "they're known by the company they keep".


856 posted on 12/13/2005 9:18:05 PM PST by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit

You must also consider its half life when deciding if the deadly radiation has decayed to a safe level. This can be tricky to compute, since the half life depends on how close the horse was to certain court cases. If the horse's greer presided over the case, it could be a long, long time.


857 posted on 12/13/2005 9:22:24 PM PST by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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To: Wampus SC

Crip is to Crap as Felos is to .........?


858 posted on 12/14/2005 4:25:14 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Wampus SC

"The State of California just killed an innocent man!"

Peace is war, bad is good, cold is hot.


859 posted on 12/14/2005 4:26:41 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
North Country Gazette continues on the Whittmore story.

With even the judge raising the issue of ineffective assistance of counsel on the trial record, it is anticipated that Jones has a strong constitutional argument in her anticipated appeal of the conviction and sentence. 12-13-05

Even Judge Raises Ineffective Counsel Issue in Schiavo Threat

8mm


860 posted on 12/14/2005 4:41:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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