Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser
Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.
Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.
"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."
The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."
"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."
Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.
"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."
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The fact that a non terminal patient like Terri Schiavo was in hospice has always puzzled me
That one puzzled all except maybe Michael. He has the sinister talent of bending just about any law to fit his own ends.
8mm
Is anybody going to freep that euthanasia seminar this Thursday evening? It's in Seminole, FL (a suburb of St. Pete.) Mapquest map.
I know we have some freepers in that area. For crying out loud people, it's free! Make up some flyers with info on the will to live. Record the meeting. Ask difficult questions. Do something.
There are some heavy hitters there from the forced euthanasia movement. They will be promoting death by starvation/dehydration to an unsuspecting audience. Will anyone be there to expose these people to the truth? Get off your butts, now!
Here's an article that addresses that question. It's from The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast. They are the ones that starved and dehydrated Terri Schiavo Schindler to death. They are also hosting a seminar promoting euthanasia this Thursday night in Seminole, FL (a suburb of St. Pete.) Please see my previous post on this thread about that.
New Prognostic Tool Helps Predict 6-Month Mortality in Advanced Dementia Patients
Boston researchers have created and validated a practical risk score for predicting 6-month mortality in nursing home patients with advanced dementia, according to their report in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
“Our risk score offers an improvement over existing prognostic guidelines used in this population because it is based on empiric data, has greater predictive power, and uses standardized, readily available MDS [Minimum Data Set] assessments,” write the investigators, led by Susan L. Mitchell, MD, of the Hebrew Rehabilitation Center for Aged Research and Training Institute and the Harvard Medical School, Boston.
The team conducted a retrospective cohort study of patients with advanced dementia admitted to all Medicare- and Medicaid-certified nursing facilities in New York (derivation cohort, n = 6799) and Michigan (validation cohort, n = 4631) during 1994-1998 and 1998-2000, respectively.
A mortality risk score based on 12 MDS factors associated with 6-month mortality risk identified in the derivation cohort was evaluated in the validation cohort. Six categories of risk of mortality within 6 months were calculated. The authors provide within their report a score sheet for estimating 6-month prognosis and stratifying patients into levels of risk.
When the researchers compared their risk score performance with that of the existing guideline for enrolling patients with a primary diagnosis of dementia into hospice — the cutoff point of 7c (nonambulatory) on the Functional Assessment Staging scale — their risk score was found to demonstrate better discrimination to predict 6-month mortality in these patients.
“Advanced dementia is an incurable, progressive condition for which palliation is often the primary goal of care, regardless of life expectancy,” state the authors. “High quality palliative care should be available to the large proportion of persons with advanced dementia who will be cared for in nursing homes.”
Source: “Estimating Prognosis for Nursing Home Residents with Advanced Dementia,” Journal of the American Medical Association; June 9, 2004; 291(22):2734-2740. Mitchell S, Kiely D, Hamel M, et al; Hebrew Rehabilitation Center for Aged Research and Training Institute; Department of Medicine and Division of Medicine and Primary Care, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center; and Division on Aging, Harvard Medical School, Boston.
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Note from BB: These are the factors they use to determine if a patient suffering dementia will live less than 6 months, so they can be admitted to hospice where treatment for their condition is forbidden, and death becomes imminent.
Check out the links on the thread. Here is a chance to actually get involved, to say what needs to be said.
End-of-Life forum to be presented at SPC Seminole Campus
8mm
So let's just starve them to death and get them out of their misery if they have these symptoms of dimentia? Oh, what has our country become???
That's what they're saying. They're giving a seminar this Thursday evening to promote the extermination of disabled people. I wonder how many pro-lifers will show up to set the record straight.
Ok, so I watched SVU tonight and all I can say is it opened old wounds for me and made me mad, sad all over again! Sure the story was very close to Terri's but had many other differences in it as well. But it was so similar that I got tears in my eyes watching it. So sad what has happend to our country where we believe that brain damage equals death!
Instead of representing Terri, which was his legal and moral responsibility, Wolfson echoed George Greer on 99.9% of the points at issue. He is a spineless, gutless windbag who shares the guilt of sending a helpless woman to her death.
Greer chose Wolfson because of Wolfson's public condemnation of Terri being given the right to representation in the courts. He was hand-picked because of the likelihood that he would not represent any of her interests. Yet even he had to admit that she was not only alive and alert, but a good candidate for swallowing tests. His condemnation of Terri diminished when he met her, but he was already sold on having her euthanized.
I have been caring for an elderly step-parent for over a year (90 yrs old-severe dementia).
He has ALL of the risk factors except the 'bedridden' one.
He has presented all of the other risk factors for someone with six months or less to live for OVER three years.
His continance is sporadic, he has lost weight-eating most of his breakfast/lunch combo but almost none of his supper-maybe a small bowl of jello, but always his beloved ice cream bar before bed.
He is nuts...sometimes telling me to get the hell out (especially the daily battle over putting 'depends' on) and thanking me generously for putting on his socks and shoes.
He had shunt surgery last year...to help with balance issues (he was falling a lot, relieving the water buildup (actually spinal fluid) between the top of his brain and his skull with the shunt has helped him...but he still needs a walker as he is an accident waiting to happen most days.
He LOVES his chair, his view of a stream, the ducks, the trees, his newspaper...that he gets to read all day long because as soon as he reads a headline he forgets it...so it is always new!
Whatever.
I guess if he were to be put in a hospice, he would be killed? Or is the fact that he is not bedridden (tho he sleeps around 14-15 hours a night, give or take) his saving grace.
HOW I WISH I COULD GO TO THIS END-OF-LIFE forum................I WOULD BE RAISING HELL. Believe it.
To tell you the truth, I have a gut feeling about that area...there is something vile there, imo. It seems to be full of dangerous, unethical, vile people who believe they have the right to determine who gets to live and who has to die.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=47434
Exclusive: Jacksonville To Cremate The Indigent
"It's very upsetting," says Jarrell, who volunteers at nursing homes and hospices around the city. She's trying to raise funds to pay for the burial of one elderly patient who is terminal, and does not want to be cremated when she passes away.
"I want to honor this person's wishes, and that's that they be buried, not cremated," Jarrell said.
Wiles, who says the city expects to handle 182 indigent burials for this fiscal year, estimates the taxpayers are being saved $145,000 by the switch to cremation - 33% of the city's budget for indigent burial.
She adds, Jacksonville officials decided to make the switch on the heels of Dade and Pinellas Counties, two other Florida counties that have also begun cremating indigent residents in recent years to save money.
I watched that episode too. They even named the husband Michael didn't they? And they portrayed him as a low life who outsmarted the system....sound familar
Yep, it was to close the Michael Schiavo I hated Dean Cain last night. I know he was just playing a roll, but it bothered me. Thing is even in this show they all kept saying this gal was brain dead in PVS, when you are just brain damaged, not brain dead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523177/posts
Lotsa reasons for it I'm sure, including who conducted the poll.
Apparently, these true geniuses were going to cut me some slack but the fact that I posted that Jeb told the German media he was considering running for president drove them wild.
I noticed that Drudge took down the link to that story quickly but it's above in one of my posts. Jeb will never have my vote, if he wants to work at FEMA, he can do that. He can pass out water to people to make up for the water Terri never got.
Your other project is a very worthy one. I had hoped you'd be able to make it to this seminar too, but nobody can be at two places at once. Keep up the good work.
Yes.
Or is the fact that he is not bedridden (tho he sleeps around 14-15 hours a night, give or take) his saving grace.
If he were in hospice, they'd see to it that he was bedridden. Problem solved.
That whole website turned my stomach. 8mm pointed out their "alliance with troops in Iraq." Actually, they have a student who is serving in Iraq, and they are using him to advance the appearance that they support the troops. That's like clown posse claiming to support the troops because one of their clowns claims to be in the military. Even if he is, I don't think anyone would make the mistake of believing that clowns are anything other than what they are. Other than the clowns themselves. They don't seem to recognize the fact that they are the clowns everyone laughs at, but I digress. The point is, advocates of forced euthanasia support healthy young people, until they become "a liability." They do not support our troops.
I hope there will be some freepers at that seminar. I'd love to get an after action report. If somebody could get audio and/or video, maybe I can find a way to post it online.
Terri was helpless. It was Wolfson's legal responsibility as GAL to represent her and his moral duty as a man to come to her aid. He did neither. Instead, he condemned her to die.
If he softened his view a bit upon meeting Terri, that did her no good at all -- and only reminds us that he was completely prejudiced against her in the first place.
Cheryl Ford is totally right about Jay Wolfson and his lack of caring about Terri. Wolfson was part of the group that wanted her to die, imo. Wolfson was constantly on the media spinning the BS lies of the culture of death while Terri was imprisoned and not allowed to have even an ice chip placed in her mouth by her sweet Mom or anyone else. For Wolfson to pretend he cared about Terri is an insult to those who know the truth. I'll never believe Terri didn't have awareness and didn't speak in her own way. My own sister-in-law was just like Terri, but with therapy managed to regain many functions.
From the article you quoted: ""He was the legal representative for Schiavo. He had a month to look through all of the legal and medical documents "of a woman I didn\'t know." He reported to Governor Jeb Bush and the courts as to whether or not Schiavo should have more swallowing tests administered. This would guide the governor in his decision-making about the case.""
What the heck does the last sentence in the above paragraph mean??? I thought Gov Bush had already decided that Terri should NOT be forced to die by having her feeding tube removed. Who is Wolfson trying to fool?? Terri was forbidden to have anything put in her mouth. Why? They knew the feeding tube was the key to killing her. If she was allowed swallow therapy - not just a swallow test, the feeding tube removal might have been meaningless. Those who wanted her to die knew she wasn't terminal. They knew the only way they could kill her would be by removing the feeding tube. But that wasn't enough for them. They also managed to forbid food and drink by mouth. Terri's own family was forbidden to give her anything by mouth.
One court doc I read submitted by Felos actually said something like this - Terri is terminal because if her feeding tube is removed, she will die. What hedious double speak. What insanity. All of us, including Felos would die without water. Dang! I've done it again... another rant.
Back to Cheryl - I'm so glad Cheryl's book is available. I'm planning to order it from her website. She's a wonderful person whom I had the pleasure of communicating with by email for the past few years. Cheryl is a hero, who fought so hard to save a precious, innocent woman from death. I would love to meet her someday and others whom I've come to love here on FR.
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