Posted on 11/04/2005 12:32:54 AM PST by Southack
PARIS RIOTS SPREADING 4.11.2005. 18:34:50
Rioting around Paris has worsened with gangs attacking police and firefighters in defiance of a government vow to crackdown on the violence, which has plagued the capital for over a week.
Fresh rioting broke out on the outskirts of Paris in the city's poorest and mainly immigrant suburbs for the eighth straight night on Thursday.
Around 1,300 police officers were mobilised in the north-eastern suburb of Seine-Saint-Denis, while more than 30 people were arrested in the area.
Buses, fire engines and police were stoned and five policemen were reported injured.
Police said more than 160 cars were torched overnight in the Paris region and 33 in the provinces, a day after around 315 vehicles were burnt in the citys Ile-de-France region.
One of the worst incidents took place at Neuilly-sur-Marne where police vans came under fire from pellet pistols, but nobody was reported hurt.
A fire was started in a primary school in Stains, as police were targeted by a group of 30 to 40 people near a synagogue.
Paris firemen were called to fight a blaze at a carpet warehouse in Aulnay-sous-Bois in Seine-Saint-Denis.
Traffic was halted on a suburban commuter line which links Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains.
The clashes have gained territory every night since they began last Thursday, exposing what critics say is a failure of the government to address the problems of low-income, high-immigration suburbs where crime and gangs run rampant.
In a worrying sign similar rampages broke out elsewhere in France.
Police said several cars in the eastern city of Dijon were set alight, while similar attacks took place in the western Seine-Maritime region and the Bouches-du-Rhone in the south of the country.
Government defiant
French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who cancelled a trip to Canada to tackle the crisis, said the violence was "unacceptable".
He vowed that authorities would not give in to the violence and would make restoring order their "absolute top priority".
"I will not allow organised gangs to make the law in the suburbs," he said.
President Jacques Chirac on Wednesday called for calm, warning that an escalation would be "dangerous".
The riots were sparked last week by the accidental electrocution of two teenagers who had hidden in an electrical sub-station to escape a police identity check in Clichy-sous-Bois.
A preliminary report released by the interior ministry on Thursday appeared to exonerate police of any direct role in the teenagers' deaths.
But as the unrest continued the opposition Socialist Party and many in the suburbs themselves blamed the hardline policies of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy for fanning the violence.
Mr Sarkozy, who on Thursday said the total number of people arrested was over 140, vowed a "war without mercy" on crime and rebellious youths in the suburbs just before the rampages erupted.
The conservative minister, who has ambitions of running for president in two years, has drawn criticism for his tough rhetoric, especially for referring to delinquents as "rabble".
On Thursday, he claimed that recent rioting "was not spontaneous, it was perfectly organised we are looking into by whom and how."
Low income suburbs
France has 751 neighbourhoods officially classed as severely disadvantaged, housing a total of five million people, around eight percent of the population.
The recent violence has exposed simmering discontent in those suburbs where African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children are trapped by poverty, unemployment, racial discrimination, crime and poor education and housing.
Unemployment is these areas is often twice the national rate of 10 percent, and per capita incomes 40 percent below the national average.
Thursday night was the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, a night traditionally marked by feasts and family get-togethers.
Wow. I have to admit, I was rather sanguine yesterday amidst all the chatter about a jihad in Paris. And I confess that I called out others here for being 'over the top' and near 'hysterics', given past tendencies for Arab disobedience in the French 'burbs, but given my immense respect for Mark Steyn's analytical and anecdotal intelligence, I have to admit I may have been wrong - that perhaps this IS more than just an opportunistic event, and perhaps something pre-meditated and fomented by Islamists in France and perhaps even Iranian agents.
This is deeply troubling.
PING to 101
Are they really THAT stupid or is there some other dynamic at work here?
"France is a bit ahead of the rest of the world with its deployment of "nukes", aka nuclear power plants"
Perhaps you should do a bit of light reading. Go back to Oct 1995 (google French Tahiti nuke) and find out that France INDEED posesses nuclear weapons, not simply nuclear power plants.
From Infoplease.com:
Countries with Nuclear Weapons Capability--->
Acknowledged: Britain, China, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, United States
Unacknowledged: Israel
Seeking: North Korea,1 Iran2
Abandoned: South AfricaConstructed but then voluntarily dismantled six uranium bombs. Belarus, Kazakhstan, UkraineWhen Soviet Union broke up, these former states possessed nuclear warheads that they have since given up.
Anytime you hear the often-used term, "nukes"..it means nuclear weapons.
Remember the French were at the top of the list of those saying democracy was not appropriate for Muslims. Democracy was not compatible with democracy.
A pity the Pope chose Benedict instead of Urban ...
LOL! Hahaha! - Hell yes, do less to control illegal immigration of foriegn trash!
opposition Socialist Party = Democtratic Party in the US.
I wasn't joking when I wrote that we need contingency plans for France's nuclear weapons. A plan developed today might save millions when executed 20 years from now.
It's not that black and white. French intelligence, which is actually pretty good, and French special forces are side by side with us in Afghanistan. France has pressured Iran to come clean on the nuke program. France recently passed stringent (relatively speaking) anti-terrorism laws similar to England's and is now implementing them. France is the site for a number of terrorist cells linked to international groups, most notably from Algeria (the recent busts in Toronto and Montreal were of offshoot cells of that same group). AND notably the French intelligence agency recently broke with tradition by allowing the CIA to open a joint anti-terrorism operation in France - never been done before.
So that's a lot for a terrorist to hate about France.
LOL...early morning chuckle. Thanks. :o)
Quagmire it is! A genuine quagmire at that. Chuckle...
Is the lamestream even mentioning Muslims at all as the perps? I haven't turned on the tv since Sunday...
Yet I do see all the lamestream online outlets leaving out the word Muslims entirely. You'd think it was white Parisian gangs doing the burning and rioting.
"five policemen were reported injured" and ZERO rioters injured.
Typical French military action.
Well, that explains a lot. Good info, thanks. How do you know about the CIA ops?
The french are reaping what they have sown for their appeasment policies toward muslim terrorists.
Islamo-Fascist: "Either you ARE us or against us."
The French not appease? Remember who the great appeasers were when Bush was making his case for War in Iraq? France, Germany, and Russia. I wonder if France will ever change their tune in light of the increasing Muslim uprising on their own soil. I doubt it very much.
"It is truly amazing that this has been allowed to continue this long."
Well, that's what happens when you've been trained to always surrender. LOL.
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