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Poland and Romania marked as likely locations for CIA camps
EUobserver ^ | 03.11.2005 | Mark Beunderman

Posted on 11/03/2005 11:24:53 AM PST by lizol

Poland and Romania marked as likely locations for CIA camps

03.11.2005 - 09:57 CET | By Mark Beunderman

Speculation is mounting on the possible location of camps where the CIA interrogates al Qaeda suspects in eastern Europe, with Poland and Romania being earmarked as the most likely spots.

The question on the exact location of the CIA facilities comes after a Washington Post report on Wednesday (2 November), which revealed that the US intelligence branch has detained top al Qaeda suspects somewhere in eastern Europe.

US officials advised the Washington Post against publication of the names of the host countries for fear of terrorist reprisals against these states.

But Human Rights Watch, a leading US-based NGO, has identified Poland and Romania as likely locations for the camps, according to press reports.

"We have a high degree of confidence that such facilities exist in at least Poland and Romania", said Tom Malinowski, Washington advocacy director of the NGO, according to the FT.

Human Rights Watch referred to the flight records of CIA aircraft transporting prisoners out of Afghanistan as one piece of strong evidence.

Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza also refers to "sources" earmarking Poland and Romania as the camp locations.

According to the paper, a CIA prison plane, the Boeing 737 N313P, landed in Poland in the north-eastern regional airport of Szymany in August 2003.

Both Poland and Romania are seen as staunch allies of the Americans, having offered full support for Washington’s military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

However, Polish military analyst and general Stanislaw Koziej said that Poland is an unlikely location, according to Polish paper Rzeczpospolita.

"Polish intelligence would not take such a risk. It would be impossible to hide", he indicated.

Mr Koziej, as well as security expert Andrzej Wik told Rzeczpospolita that a more probable site for CIA interrogation centres would be central Asia, where the US has military bases.

Meanwhile, Czech interior minister Frantiszek Bublan told aktualne.cz news agency the US approached Prague to build a camp, but this request was rejected by the Czechs.

Hungary, Slovakia and Bulgaria have denied involvement, according to UK newspaper The Times.

For its part, the US administration has refused to deny the existence of CIA camps in Europe.

President Bush’s national security adviser Stephen Hadley stated "The fact they are secret — assuming there are such sites — some people say that the test of your principles are what you do when no one’s looking. The president has insisted that whether it is in the public or in private, the same principles will apply".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: easterneurope; guantanamo; poland; romania; waronterror; wot
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I hope this is some kind of BS.
1 posted on 11/03/2005 11:24:55 AM PST by lizol
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2 posted on 11/03/2005 11:26:31 AM PST by lizol
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I'm sure that the Democrats will immediately demand an investigation to ascertain who leaked this information.
3 posted on 11/03/2005 11:27:17 AM PST by linear (Repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!!)
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To: linear

I'm sure they'll be all over the Able Danger scandal as well.


4 posted on 11/03/2005 11:28:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: lizol

Why? We do it the same way whether people know about it or not - the right way.


5 posted on 11/03/2005 11:36:51 AM PST by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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According to the paper, a CIA prison plane, the Boeing 737 N313P, landed in Poland in the north-eastern regional airport of Szymany in August 2003.

Hmmmm.... the location would be perfect for this kind of activity. It's exactly in the middle of nowhere

International Airport "Szczytno-Szymany" is surroundedby unique forests and beautiful lakes and is the only airport designed for domestic and international air traffic service in Warmia and Mazury region
http://www.airport.szczytno.pl/index.php?section=lokalizacja⟨=en






6 posted on 11/03/2005 11:36:58 AM PST by lizol
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To: linear

Well I'm sure valerie Plame would never leak this information. Whoever did it, I want them tried and imprisoned. We really do not take our lives and the lives of our troops very seriously, do we?


7 posted on 11/03/2005 11:38:33 AM PST by Williams
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Just don't know why it is supposed to be done in Poland, not in U.S.


8 posted on 11/03/2005 11:39:37 AM PST by lizol
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Poland is turning out to be a very strong ally. I believe Poland is a much closer ally than Germany, France or Italy.


9 posted on 11/03/2005 11:41:10 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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Memo to CIA:

Accelerate interrogation schedule, terminate, and take out the trash.
10 posted on 11/03/2005 11:42:27 AM PST by hang 'em (Hey Libs:Iraq isn't Vietnam:Plame isn't Watergate:Bush isn't Nixon:Stuck in 60's=Stuck on STUPID)
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we need a bunch of these places lets start filling them up with some of our homegrown idiots-i could name a hundred in the demo party alone that need to take a trip


11 posted on 11/03/2005 11:45:04 AM PST by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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Poland and Romania? What a bunch of dumbasses.

Where is the best place to hide a tree? In a forrest, of course!

Therefore, these super, double-secret, CIA torture camps are in Paris and the Netherlands.


12 posted on 11/03/2005 11:46:31 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What, me worry?)
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To: lizol
Did they land in Klewki? ;)

BS.

13 posted on 11/03/2005 11:54:20 AM PST by kaiser80
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They should STFU and stay out If they can't even keep their own secrets. These jerks are playing games and our people may pay the highest price.


14 posted on 11/03/2005 11:56:41 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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We should send the Democrat investigation team on a one-way fact finding tour.
15 posted on 11/03/2005 12:01:52 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: kaiser80

You see, maybe Lepper was right :-)


16 posted on 11/03/2005 12:04:59 PM PST by lizol
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To: Grzegorz 246

Actually - Poland's position on Al-Queda's priority list may go up significantly.


17 posted on 11/03/2005 12:10:01 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

Who cares where they are at?

I just care that they exist...or do they?


18 posted on 11/03/2005 12:11:34 PM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: lizol

The very fact that this is being talked about is BS!!!


19 posted on 11/03/2005 12:12:13 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: lizol

They can mistake Poland with Holland... ;)


20 posted on 11/03/2005 12:17:26 PM PST by kaiser80
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