Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

There was a lot of comment on the economic impact of the FairTax. I thought that this letter would add to the understanding and knowledge of freepers in general.
1 posted on 11/02/2005 10:09:06 AM PST by Eaglewatcher
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Eaglewatcher

Maybe we all should fax this to the government and our representatives. How else can we tell them we don't want another round of changes and exclusions to the tax code as recommended by the tax panel?


2 posted on 11/02/2005 10:14:11 AM PST by Bhrian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher
Excellant post!

Of course the resident naysayers will appear and attempt to trash ALL if these learned scholars.

3 posted on 11/02/2005 10:15:18 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ancient_geezer

Tax reform ping!


4 posted on 11/02/2005 10:15:40 AM PST by kevkrom (Thank you... I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. (And try the veal!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

What an undistinguished list of academics. I know several of them. Paul Rubin at Emory is quite bright and is a good political economist, but not a taxation expert. In fact, many of these academics are NOT experts in the economic consequences of tax law changes.

What I read from this list is that the famous economists who work in taxation do not agree with this group on "fair taxation."


5 posted on 11/02/2005 10:19:36 AM PST by whitedog57 (Holland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

...the movement for consumption-based taxation has been hijacked by a group of extremists whose principal interest is abolishing the Internal Revenue Service.21 They believe that if virtually all federal taxes are abolished and replaced with a retail sales tax like those in the states, then the states can simply collect the federal government's revenue for it, thereby allowing for abolition of the IRS...

21 The Church of Scientology originated this legislation as part of a campaign against the IRS because it refused for many years to allow gifts to the church to be deducted as legitimate charitable contributions, on the grounds that it was not a true church. The IRS eventually relented. See Davis (1997) and Starobin (1995) for discussions of the Church of Scientology's role in the sales tax campaign.

Davis, Bob. 1997. "CATS Out of the Bag." World, 12:9 (May 31/June 7).
Starobin, Paul. 1995. "No Returns." National Journal (March 18): 666-671.

source

Writing science fiction for about a penny a word is no way to make a living. If you really want to make a million, the quickest way is to start your own religion.

~ L. Ron Hubbard


6 posted on 11/02/2005 10:19:49 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

The so called FairTax will allow the rich to grow even richer, creating a form of economic feudalism in America--even more so than our current condition.


7 posted on 11/02/2005 10:27:27 AM PST by Age of Reason
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

That's just what the "Fair Tax" was missing! The endorsement of liberal arts professors!


9 posted on 11/02/2005 10:49:59 AM PST by SolidSupplySide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


17 posted on 11/02/2005 12:21:37 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

Thanks for the post. Nice find!!


39 posted on 11/02/2005 5:43:54 PM PST by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

Call the Whitehouse and tell them we want THE FAIRTAX!

Whitehouse switchboard (be nice, but firm):
202-456-1414


105 posted on 11/03/2005 7:14:11 PM PST by Whitewasher (Would u like America to be a goat nation in the millennium to come? Keep pushing the "Roadmap" bull!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

bttt


206 posted on 11/04/2005 8:00:36 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (It is hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sock in GA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

Only one problem. This would eliminate 90% of the power congress has. It will only pass if the voters absolutely demand it. I don't see much chance of that in the near future, but it's a brilliant idea anyway.


212 posted on 11/04/2005 11:09:56 PM PST by Casloy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher; Bigun; Carry_Okie
Ok, I'll bite.

progressive national retail sales tax...

The word "progressive" was mentioned at least twice in this "proposal."

Why should anybody buy into a "progressive" proposal? Everytime I see the "p" word, my skin crawls.

248 posted on 11/05/2005 4:40:01 PM PST by sauropod (Susan Estrich is Nina Burleigh with a law degree. -- Doug from Upland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher; Carry_Okie; hosepipe; Bigun; hellinahandcart
Many said the same thing to the grassroots progressives who won women the right to vote, to those who made collective bargaining a reality for union members, and to the Freedom Riders who made civil rights a reality in America.

My hackles have been raised. Explain why we should endorse this over what Boortz is proposing.

249 posted on 11/05/2005 4:43:08 PM PST by sauropod (Susan Estrich is Nina Burleigh with a law degree. -- Doug from Upland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

The words "fair" and "tax" should NEVER appear in the same sentence. IMHO.


292 posted on 11/07/2005 10:20:59 AM PST by floozy22
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

The one thing I didn't see on the list is a reference to my only real problem with the Fair Tax.

Money I earned in the past and put in the bank was subject to Federal income tax when I earned it and is all post-tax money.

When I try to spend it under the Fair Tax, it is taxed AGAIN, even though it was taxed once before.

Did I miss it in the article? Does anyone know how this will be addressed. That's two bites at the same apple, and clearly unfair. The Fair Tax doesn't live up to its name.


366 posted on 11/08/2005 8:51:50 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

bttt


511 posted on 11/10/2005 1:32:06 PM PST by jslade
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

How does a "Progressive sales tax" work?


679 posted on 11/14/2005 5:14:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

The problem with a national sales tax is that you cannot trust Congress to eliminate the income tax first.

What Congress will do (with its insatiable appetite to steal our money) is promise to eliminate the income tax, impose a national sales tax (weeee, more money!!), and then find one million reasons for not eliminating the income tax.

You cannot trust politicians when they are trying to get your money. I say No to the national sales tax, and Yes to a flat income tax rate at 16%. Screw 'em.

DA740


700 posted on 11/15/2005 8:14:33 AM PST by DA740
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Eaglewatcher

Damn, Eagle...you've got some kind of record going for a thread. LOL
what's this? 13 days and counting...
KEEP IT UP!


711 posted on 11/15/2005 8:50:27 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson