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To: ExSoldier
"Now if we can get new refineries built maybe we can drop kick the Saudis out the back door."

Since the oil companies were recently proclaiming their "historical profits" over this past year...new refineries should be easy to afford! But as always...not in my backyard...so approvals should take about 20 years.

4,133 posted on 12/07/2005 9:40:27 AM PST by all4one (The Islamic Homicide Bombers are really helping to spread the message about the real nature of Islam)
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To: all4one
But as always...not in my backyard...

My feeling is that technology has progressed to the point that existing refineries can be demolished and two new refinieries built in the same spot!

4,134 posted on 12/07/2005 10:05:19 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: all4one
....proclaiming their "historical profits" over this past year

Those "historical profits" typically go to the CEOs and shareholders, not for new refineries.

Snip: Petroleum refineries are expensive facilities, with capital costs ranging from about $2 billion to $4 billion, depending on their size, capabilities, and location. Industry studies suggest that obtaining the necessary approvals and financing typically takes several years and that construction usually takes more than five years. Given the lead times for planning such a facility, CBO expects that near-term costs would primarily be for planning and siting a facility, with construction-related expenditures beginning in 2010. Thus, assuming the President chooses to build a refinery and that the necessary amounts are appropriated, CBO estimates that implementing this project would cost about $275 million over the 2006-2010 period for planning and preconstruction activities and a total of at least $2 billion over the 10-year period.

Snip: Nervous about facing voter outrage in next year’s congressional elections, some Republicans asked the industry to increase production and ease back prices. But reports indicate that, even after the recent hurricanes wrecked a significant chunk of the nation’s oil refineries, the oil companies are in no rush to build new refineries. Gheit commented, “Exxon is a good corporate citizen but it does not work for the welfare of the country.”

4,198 posted on 12/07/2005 4:19:19 PM PST by MamaDearest
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