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Posted on 11/01/2005 6:57:01 PM PST by nwctwx
Thanks Founding Father.
Yep, I've been following this story.
It's interesting (and that's an understatement).
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=My%20Own%20Words%2C%20Ansar%20al-Islam%20founder%20Mullah%20Krekar
Krekar published a book, and page 2 of this search, there is a link, that says he called for suicide bombings on the internet.
A lot of interresting info in this article, so I'll post all of it. There's a lesson here for USA officials.
Link:http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Religion&loid=8.0.236046604&par=0
INDONESIA: PRIVATE ISLAMIC SCHOOLS UNDER SCRUTINY
Jakarta, 2 Dec. (AKI) - The decision by the Indonesian government to run checks on some pesantren (private Muslims schools), where various convicted terrorists have studied has been cautiously welcomed by many observers. "I agree with the move but it cannot be generalized for all the pesantren and it cannot be applied to all those that study in the targeted pesantren" Ahmad Najib Burhani, who teaches at the theology faculty of the Islamic University in Jakarta.
"There is certainly reason to believe that some of the material taught in certain schools contributed to the radicalizations of some people. There are certain teachings that contribute to create a mindset that says that non-Muslims are our enemy" said Ahmad Najib Burhani.
The secretary general of the religious affairs ministry Faisal Ismail said this week the government would carry out inspections on private Islamic schools accused of being recruitment centres for terrorists. The inspectors will include members of the “Task Force against Terrorism”, the group of religious leaders recently tasked by the government to clarify the meaning of jihad, or holy war, with the population.
Under particular scrutiny is the Al-Mukmin boarding school, founded by radical cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, near the town in Ngruki in Central Java. Bashir, convicted of having instigated the 12 October, 2002 Bali bombing, is considered the spitirual leader of Jemaah Islamiyah, the terrorist group fighting for an Islamic state in the south east Asian.
Among these are Idris and Mubarok - two suicide bombers in the 2002 bombings - and Mukhlas, considered the head of the same group and on death row for the attack which costs 202 lives.
Asmar Latin Sani and Gempur Budi Angkoro, known as Jabir, also attended the school. The pair blew themselves up respectively in the attacks, on the Hotel Marriott (5 August 2003) and the Australian embassy in Jakarta (9 September 2004) in which more than 23 people were killed.
Masdar Farid Mas'udi, the director of the Indonesian Society for Pesantren Development admitted that the government's decision was just. "It is needed. I am not too sure what happen in that school. For what I am told, they promote a hard-line version of Islam. These schools have to think about their position in this issue directly and indirectly".
Another school under investigation is Boyolali's Darusy Syahadah, where Mohammed Firdaus Salik - one of the three young men who blew themselves up in Bali on 1 October killing 23 people - was once a pupil. Darusy Syahadah was funded by the foundation Yasmin that experts consider close to JI.
The decision of the ministry follows the invitation a month ago by the powerful deputy president, Jusuf Kalla, to monitor the curriculum of the pesantren.
Various other pesantren have been financed by organisations of institutions linked to Saudi Arabia. As well as the money, Riyadh has also exported the radical Wahabi interpretation of Islam.
Monitoring Islamic schools has always been a problem for the Jakarta government, struggling to find the right balance between curbing the growth of radical Islam without offending the sensibility of the Muslim population which opposes the interference of the state in religious matters.
The vast majority of the 17,000 pesantren are run by perfectly legitimate religious institutions and are vital to fill a yawning gap in Indonesia's education system.
Pulls ben williams:
(see also spelling jehad link)
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=next%20generation%20of%20jihadi%20terrorists
Thanks granny.
Your report on the population of California is interesting and bears up the things that I have heard or figured out.
The Californian's move in, then start installing the very liberal laws that ruined california.
They build a nice home next to an old dump, then want the old place removed.
It is all the discord there, underneath the surface, that is boiling and looking for an outlet.
I fear that Tookie will be the spark that will start it.
In 3 years they drove the median prices of homes up about $300,000. dollars, sounds good, but it has raised the taxes to the point that people who retired to Las Vegas can no longer afford to live there.
I expect the same to happen here.
You're not the only one. We're expecting our taxes to skyrocket because Californians have come into our area too, buying the $300,000 - $600,000 homes here with cash from the sale of their million dollar homes there. Since they've begun arriving here, we now have graffiti and cars with sound systems that can be heard a city block away. Yes Granny, I can easily relate to what you say.
http://www.alqassam.ws/vb/showthread.php?t=1244
Cindy, I was digging around on your link.
The above, has several photos in it, on this page, looks like an old oBL.
Page 2 - not all the photos opened for me, but there is a big poster with many mens photos, the martyr's I assume and OBL.
Page 3, Good weapon photo
Page 4, you don't see that there is a page 4, until you go to page 3.
Will you look at this! Good news for a change.
Judge: Searches of bags in subway is constitutional (ACLU Loses)
NY Daily News ^ | December 2, 2005 | Unknown
Random police searches of riders' bags to deter terrorism in the nation's largest subway system do not violate the Constitution and are a minimal intrusion of privacy, a federal judge ruled Friday.
"The risk of a terrorist bombing of New York City's subway system is real and substantial," U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman said in a 41-page ruling tossing out a lawsuit brought by the New York Civil Liberties Union.
Citing testimony that up to 50 percent of terrorist acts were directed at transportation systems, he said the need to implement counterterrorism measures was "indisputable, pressing, on-going and evolving." He called the searches effective.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1533188/posts
Snip: HAWAII VOLCANOES NATIONAL PARK, Hawaii — About 44 acres of coastline collapsed into the ocean this week, setting loose a glowing stream of lava that shot out from the newly exposed cliffside 45 feet above the water. The plume, 6 feet in diameter, sent up a tower of steam as it hit the water and began forming a ramp of new land. The collapse of solidified lava shelf and sea cliff Monday was the largest since Kilauea Volcano began its current eruption in 1983.
SNIP: On Nov. 4, the parents of a teenager killed in January 2004 sued the Austin police department. Humberto Garcia claimed that his daughter, Jenny Garcia Hayden, might be alive if police had reported her killer to immigration authorities after his illegal status was purportedly discovered during an unrelated investigation before the murder.
Austin officials deny any wrongdoing. They say their policy, based on a 1997 city resolution, is aimed merely at ensuring that city employees do not discriminate against illegal immigrants.
My question: Why aren't Austin officials enforcing immigration laws? Instead they uphold the purported "rights"of illegals over the rights guaranteed citizens under our constitution for our own citizens.
Muslim mob terrorizes 300 children in Indonesian Sunday school
Snip: Approximately 30 Christian children fled in panic after a mob of Islamic militants raided and vandalized their Sunday school class, which was being held in a private home last weekend in Curug, Indonesia, according to a Christian group called Voice of the Martyrs.
The violence came less than a month after three teenaged Christian schoolgirls were attacked and beheaded as they walked through a cocoa plantation on their way to school. One girl's severed head was reportedly placed in front of a church, eight miles from where the bodies were found, in what locals viewed as a stark warning to Christians.
VOM reported that in the most recent incident, the mob "terrorized" the children at the Curug Sunday school class and destroyed several desks and chairs, guitars, a keyboard, organ and fan in the classroom. Voice of the Martyrs is a Christian organization that documents persecution of believers.
Snip: The raid, which occurred in October after an extensive surveillance operation by both the Bosnian police and Western intelligence services, turned up an arsenal in the apartment, in the suburb of Ilidza, including suicide vests, up to 65 pounds of exploding bullets and high explosive, and a machine pistol. Investigators also found a video in which three men - at least two of them teenagers - are seen asking forgiveness from God for their "sacrifice," in a recording made just hours before the raid. The two teenagers were detained.
Hip Hop predicted liquor store trashings long ago
Snip: Proof that this is not a new issue can be found in numerous rap songs over the years. The early 1990s were full of racial tension between the black community and liquor stores. On Public Enemy's song "1 Million Bottle Bags," Chuck D proclaims, "They drink it thinkin' it's good/ But they don't sell the s*** in the white neighborhood!"
Earlier, in his now highly-famous song "Black Korea," Ice Cube hit L.A.'s Asian community with a mountain of racial slurs in rhyme form, closing with the now-prophetic line, "So pay respect to the black fist/Or we'll burn your store right down to a crisp."
Over 2,000 JMB suicide bombers ready to strike
Snip: Over 2000 members of Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) now remain scattered in different parts of the country who are ready to carry out suicide bomb attacks.
Highly placed sources told The Independent yesterday that hundreds of suicide bombers are at present staying in Dhaka and its adjoining districts, ready to strike any time. Different law enforcing agencies have prepared a list of 8,096 members belonging to the JMB. Of them more than 2000 are the members of JMB suicide squad.
Looks like I'll be baking a celebration cake tomorrow! There is always hope - and this is proof of that.
Point of Departure 6: To work with loyalty alongside Islamic groups
and institutions in multiple areas to agree on common ground, in
order
to "cooperate on the points of agreement and set aside the points of
disagreement".
Point of Departure 7: To accept the principle of temporary
cooperation between Islamic movements and nationalist movements
in
the broad sphere and on common ground such as the struggle against
colonialism, preaching and the Jewish state, without however having
to form alliances. This will require, on the other hand, limited contacts
between certain leaders, on a case by case basis, as long as these
contacts do not violate the [shariah?] law. Nevertheless, one must
not give them allegiance or take them into confidence, bearing in mind
that the Islamic movement must be the origin of the initiatives and
orientations taken. <<<<<
And:
Point of Departure 11: To adopt the Palestinian cause as part of a
worldwide Islamic plan, with the policy plan and by means of jihad,
since it acts as the keystone of the renaissance of the Arab world
today. <<<
From post 3530 of this thread.
To me, this is what ties them to the communist and nazi groups, and it is what is going to erupt in California when the Tookie guy is executed.
I think that it is also what is behind the threats/incidents of today.
Duke was overseas only a week or so ago, meeting with the muslims and making deals with them, while he bad mouthed the U.S.........
It will be difficult to tell the difference between the muslim jihad groups and the crazed groups of America and one must not forget that the muslims are growing at an alarming rate in Mexico.
Don't settle for the url's that say there are few muslims in mexico, that is interesting, due to the fact that 2 months ago, all the reports said over 8,000 and growing fast.
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=muslims%20in%20mexico
This is an interesting search, shows the mexican muslims are spreading in the U.S.
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Muslim%20Mosques%20in%20Mexico
It appears there are new reports in this search:
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=al%20qaeda%20in%20mexico
This was an accidental search, but a couple here look interesting, I had cancelled the highlight for above and google thought that was the search that I wanted:
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Point%20of%20Departure%2011%3A%20To%20adopt%20the%20Palestinian%20cause%20as%20part%20of%20a%20%0D%0A%20worldwide%20Islamic%20plan%2C%20with%20the%20policy%20plan%20and%20by%20means%20of%20jihad%2C%20%0D%0A%20since%20it%20acts%20as%20the%20keystone%20of%20the%20renaissance%20of%20the%20Arab%20world%20%0D%0A%20today.%20
Here it is as a link:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/12/2/210742.shtml
Yes, the crime comes with them. (the californians)
Today KAAA radio, our local radio is warning about a new scam in our area, they think it is a "Theft of ID" crime.
Someone calls you and says they are from the Jury dept of the Court.
They want to verify the information they have on you.
Name
Address
Social Security number
Credit Card numbers
The police say that the Court will never call you for the above information, that it is a scam.
Heh, we Oregonians founded that movement. We've been blaming those damn Californians for wrecking our state for at least the last 30 years. :)
As our late governor Tom McCall said:
We want you to visit our State of Excitement often. Come again and again. But for heaven's sake, don't move here to live. Or if you do have to move in to live, don't tell any of your neighbors where you are going.
Ruth,
Yes, things have gone from bad to worse here in OR. Salem is known as the "Meth capital of the US". Which of course means massive amounts of property crimes. My GF works at a credit union dealing with fraud and bankruptcy. It seems like she is telling me about some new ID theft scheme just about every day.
The tweakers are desperate for money to buy that next hit. Hell, I just had someone break into my old pickup with 200000 miles and steal my old stereo (not a good one) and rip off the whole panel on the center of my dashboard. This happened at school in the middle of day in a busy parking lot. Idiot even left the screwdriver he used to pop my lock sitting on the seat. Of course, the cops could barely bother to care. They didn't even want the screwdriver as potential evidence.
ON THE NET...
http://www.mucadele.com
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