Posted on 11/01/2005 8:17:35 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
*crickets chirping*
What I find amusing is the zeal you evo's consume in pressing whatever advantage you seem to believe exists...I've gotten no straight answer from any of you to this question...our existence is threatened exactly how if a teacher in the Dover School District reads a two minute speech indicating an alternative exists to the sainted Darwinian scrolls...to be studied at some other time and place only if desired...
Do you believe the U.S. Constitution prevents these people from using their religious belief in attempting to influence public policy?
If so, please use the Constition and your own words to prove these people do not have the right to attempt to influence public policy based on their religious beliefs.
If you answer no to my question, then who's the bigger liars?
We should look the other way when someone lies?
That's what ID is, after all. This trial has shown that.
And I mine! BWAHAHA!
The trial has shown ID is a lie? Explain please...how in the name of Charlie Darwin are you qualified to definitively make that statement...
So that's what the debate has been reduced to? What's the harm in schools promoting creationism/astrology/yogic flying/astral walking/afrocentrism?
And you're certain that question deserves an answer?
We're constantly told that ID is not about a stealth attempt to introduce Creationism. We're constantly told that it's not about religion - it's about "a new scientific theory."
This trial shows that to be a lie.
Eyah Say there.
Harumph - that's not very diplomatic of you, Sir.
As far as trying to use religion to reticule intelligent design, it is only a feeble attempt to plug the leak in a crumbling sea wall dam.
I smell perjury/obstruction charges against this mendacious witness, if not an additional conspiracy to obstruct charge against the whole lot of them.
These people have have neither scientific understanding nor sense of personal integrity, and this trial is documenting both flaws in their characters. I would not be surprised if the lot of them end up in jail for this.
Damn! - a new use for a reticule.
I'm afraid you have it backwards. Every year more is understood and explained and more information reveals more support for Evolution.
Just because you cannot, or will not try to, understand it doesn't make it more complicated.
Judge Grills Dover Souls?
Looks like a little mistate'n goin on.
LOLOL!!!
In fact, it's going to hell in a handbag.
LMAO!
This is the wake-up call to the Republican Party: either renounce and disown these disingenuous, mendacious, and not very bright Creationists/IDers, or risk being laughed out of office in forthcoming elections. Any political party that takes this anti-science trash seriously won't be by the average voter.
Talked to Ph on the phone yesterday. He is having major technical problems. Looks like he will be off the air for a while longer. Just wanted to pass that on.
Thanks Junior for keeping the ping list going!
You're one Hell of a lot more subtle than I, Gunga Din.
You know, you have a great point. And since we're trying to "open up dialog in the public sphere", that is for those receiving public funding, I suggest that every Christian church of every denomination taking advantage of any tax breaks provided by whatever level of government now be required to read a 2 minute speech right before the sermon.
It might go something like this: Christianity is a matter of faith, and as such it cannot be proven that God exists, and neither is there any empirical evidence for the afterlife. There are gaps in the record and it is only a theory.
Our existence is threatened exactly how if a preacher in the pulpit reads a two minute speech indicating an alternative exists to the Christian religion.
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