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Global warming [8000 years old]
CBC News ^ | October 25, 2005 | SUMITRA RAJAGOPALAN

Posted on 10/31/2005 9:22:23 PM PST by mathprof

Forget Kyoto. By the time Christ appeared on Earth, the planet was already belching enough gas to cause global warming.

And we have our ancestors to blame. Or thank.

William Ruddiman, a professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, is behind a controversial theory suggesting that humans had a hand in warming the planet nearly 8,000 years ago, and in doing so, might have prevented another ice age.

In his new book titled Plows, Plagues, Petroleum: How Humans took Control of the Climate, Ruddiman delves further into the theory that first made waves in the winter of 2003.

“I presented my results at the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco back then,” recalls Ruddiman. His findings threw a monkey wrench into a time-honoured theory: that global warming began only 150 years ago, shortly after the Industrial Revolution.

Earth gracefully pirouettes like a ballerina around its axis. Every now and then – once in 22,000 years to be exact – the axis tilts causing the planet to wobble. This clumsy movement is enough to cause warmer summers in the Northern Hemisphere and drive methane levels up in the atmosphere through the breakdown of plant matter in the wetlands.

Then, as the Northern Hemisphere moves away from the sun, methane emissions plummet, reaching a nadir 11,000 years later. Thus waxed and waned methane throughout recorded history, up until 5,000 years ago.

Then it took a wrong turn.

As Ruddiman pored over data collected from ancient air trapped inside Antarctic ice cores, he found that the methane levels reversed directions 5,000 years ago, soaring back to 700 parts per billion when they should have ebbed to 450 ppb, akin to previous cycles.

Intrigued, he turned his attention to carbon dioxide. Here, a similar picture unfolded. During the current interglacial period, the level of CO2 peaked around 10,500 as expected and continued its slow decline through modern times.

Then, it reversed course 8,000 years ago. By the start of the industrial era, CO2 concentrations had soared to 285 parts per million, around 40 ppm higher than expected. Ruddiman suspected that these discrepancies were not driven by natural causes.

So, could humans have been responsible for this anomaly?

Ruddiman found his answers in the ancient civilizations of China and Mesopotamia.

Ruddiman found evidence from studies in archeology and human historical records to show that Europeans began clearing forests to make way for new crops like wheat, barley and peas around 8,000 years ago. “This significant deforestation would have pushed levels of CO2 upwards,” he opines.

Likewise, around 5,000 years ago, Chinese farmers began flooding lowlands near rivers to grow rice, which would have contributed to a rise in atmospheric methane.

Thus, ancient agriculture, not modern industry, was responsible for the onset of global warming.

Plows, not petroleum.

As with all radical theories, this one has its skeptics. In particular, Ruddiman found one critique that warranted a closer look.

Fortunaut Joos is a professor of environmental physics at the University of Bern, Switzerland. For the past many years, Joos has developed models of carbon cycling, thanks to which he can predict the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at a given period of time.

Joos jumped on Ruddiman’s assertions and stated that there is no way forest clearing could account for the anomalous 40 ppm rise in CO2. With the area of forestland prevalent in the day, any rise in CO2 would level off at four ppm. So, Ruddiman’s assertions were off the mark – by a factor of 10.

“Indeed,” confessed Ruddiman, “he was right. Deforestation could only account for 35-45 per cent of the anomalous CO2 rise.”

So, where did the rest of the CO2 come from?

After much rumination, Ruddiman hit upon a possible answer. “It dawned on me that, alongside human factors pushing CO2 levels up, there might be another mechanism keeping the CO2 levels from going down.”

Further research revealed a cooling trend prevalent in previous interglacial cycles. Looming sea ice in Antarctica is believed to drive down atmospheric CO2 values by reducing carbon exchanges between southern ocean surface water and the atmosphere.

This cooling mechanism is absent today, thus possibly adding to an already increased level of gas.

The critics notwithstanding, Many of Ruddiman’s colleagues have welcomed his new assertions and the resulting paradigm shift in our understanding of climate change.

Ruddiman’s theory brings up an intriguing prospect. Greenhouse gases distanced us from an impending ice age. Could this mean that global warming was a good thing?

“Ah, you’ve hit the nail on the head!” exclaims Ruddiman.

Yet today, the face of global warming is decidedly ugly: floods, melting glaciers, droughts, disease. How then to reconcile the devastating effects of global warming with this new image of greenhouse gases as a warm cuddly blanket, shielding Earth from the next ice age?

“My theory is about the past,” he emphasizes, “and we simply cannot make inferences about the beneficial effects of global warming today based on yesterday’s records.”

“If anything,” he notes, “this study should be a lesson in humility. As humans, we were able to alter the climate simply by growing food,” he muses. “Now, with all the technology at our disposal, just imagine what we can do with the climate in the near future!”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; globalwarming; history
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Global warming before Halliburton??
1 posted on 10/31/2005 9:22:24 PM PST by mathprof
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To: mathprof

Burning Bush's fault.


2 posted on 10/31/2005 9:23:24 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: mathprof
Every now and then – once in 22,000 years to be exact – the axis tilts causing the planet to wobble.

This statement is perhaps the best way to get absolutely everything wrong about precession in a single sentence.
3 posted on 10/31/2005 9:26:35 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: mathprof

I vote we whack off a big chunk of Antartica next summer and drag that sucker into the Gulf of Mexico. Who says we should be humble about controlling the weather?


4 posted on 10/31/2005 9:26:38 PM PST by microgood
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To: mathprof
William Ruddiman, a professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, is behind a controversial theory suggesting that humans had a hand in warming the planet nearly 8,000 years ago, and in doing so, might have prevented another ice age.

That's truly idiotic. There's nothing humans could do to affect the weather now and there sure as hell wasn't 6000 years ago.

What you DID have 6000 years back was a very hot age called hypsothermal or some such which corresponded roughly to the classical "golden age" described in literature and the reason they called it a golden age instead of the age when everybody drowned is that it was before the flood and there simply wasn't as much water on the planet at the time.

5 posted on 10/31/2005 9:38:48 PM PST by anthraciterabbit
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To: mathprof

Another pantload


6 posted on 10/31/2005 9:42:20 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: mathprof
Ruddiman suspected that these discrepancies were not driven by natural causes.

So, then, humans are not natural, and everything we do is harmful to the environment. I suppose going back to the stone age before we learned to grow crops is the best future for humanity.

And, anything that the rest of nature, which doesn't include humans, is OK and acceptable.

If cattle or dinosaurs ever assisted in causing global warming in the past, well, that was Ok because they weren't human.

As of today, I'm resigning from the human race. I'm not going to take the blame for harming the planet.
7 posted on 10/31/2005 9:51:22 PM PST by adorno
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To: SunkenCiv

Somethingorother PING


8 posted on 10/31/2005 9:52:49 PM PST by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: festus
Maybe we can convince the loonies that the Age Of Aquarius is coming up in a few hundred years (when precession moves the spring equinox into the constellation of Aquarius), and that all our Mother Earth problems will be solved at that time.

-PJ

9 posted on 10/31/2005 9:53:33 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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Well he sounds real....

"William Ruddiman is a marine geologist. He received his PhD from Columbia University, and is currently Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia. He was the Chair of this department from 1993 -1996. Prior to this, he was a senior research scientist at the Lamont-Doherty Observatory in New York, a program associate with the National Science Foundation, and a Senior Scientist/Oceanographer with the U.S. Naval Oceanographic Office in Maryland."

http://cires.colorado.edu/events/lectures/ruddiman/


10 posted on 10/31/2005 9:59:41 PM PST by gondramB
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To: festus
Every now and then – once in 22,000 years to be exact

I thought it was 23K.  Do we have a rounding error to fit an agenda?

11 posted on 10/31/2005 10:06:24 PM PST by quantim (Just be glad Detroit is not in a hurricane zone.)
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Greenhouse Effect Occurred 5,000 Years Ago: Archaeologists
China View/Xinhuanet | 10-31-2005
Posted on 10/31/2005 3:59:50 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512913/posts


12 posted on 10/31/2005 10:15:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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13 posted on 10/31/2005 10:15:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: mathprof
It's great to see this theory finally appearing in the MSM -- even if the coverage is spun to try to preserve the doomsday theories underpinning Kyoto.

I posted something about this in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1500958/posts

Here's part of what I said then:

"There's another hypothesis about climate change that Scientific American printed back in March, 2005.

"Humans are causing global warming. It started over 8,000 years ago, with the advent of agriculture -- and it's good for us. Without this greenhouse gas effect, we are over 2,000 years overdue for another ice age. The ice age could start after we've used up all the fossil fuels. "It's all laid out quite logically in an article titled:"How Did Humans First Alter Global Climate?", by a William F. Ruddiman.

"When I first read this article, I wondered whether it would shake things up in the scientific and political realms. The logical conclusion is that we should be doing everything we can to preserve an adequate greenhouse effect. (Subsidies for buying SUVs?) The precautionary principle in reverse."

In short -- Global warming = a good thing.
14 posted on 10/31/2005 10:20:12 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: anthraciterabbit
and there simply wasn't as much water on the planet at the time.

Well, I disagree with the concept here. The 'water' on earth is increased very slightly by the influx of small 'asteriods' or snowballs that pelt the earth continuously.

Other than that, that water that was here is here. It can't go anywhere.

It may have been ice, or vapor, but, essentially still water.

15 posted on 10/31/2005 10:24:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: gondramB

Sounds like a nice man who is simply educated beyond his abilities.


16 posted on 10/31/2005 10:32:11 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: festus

This statement is perhaps the best way to get absolutely everything wrong about precession in a single sentence.

Precession defined

17 posted on 10/31/2005 10:33:34 PM PST by elli1
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To: mathprof

Back when the world population was less than 500 million? Yep ll them sckers exhaling, and the animals exhaling, just runined it all. Long before rapant tobacco use destroyed it again.


18 posted on 11/01/2005 12:50:37 AM PST by Waco
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To: SunkenCiv

FAIRIE DUST alert.


19 posted on 11/01/2005 1:54:12 AM PST by Fred Nerks (THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS MAINSTREAM MEDIA. IT'S ENEMEDIA !!!!!)
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To: mathprof

A co-worker of mine, and a strong anti-Bush "King George" lib mentioned Halliburton in the lunchroom the other day. It was all I could do to keep from laughing. Political conversations are supposedly forbidden in the workplace, but you know how that goes. To libs simply mentioning Halliburton or Karl Rove is supposed to settle arguments and show that by mentioning those names, the liberal person who mentioned them is a real deep thinker. I've haven't met one yet who is, but maybe someday I will.


20 posted on 11/01/2005 2:54:11 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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