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Fourth night of riots in Paris (BOBIGNY, France)
CNN ^ | Monday, October 31, 2005 Posted: 1407 GMT (2207 HKT | Reuters

Posted on 10/31/2005 8:04:50 AM PST by Murtyo

Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday defended his tough crime policies against claims they helped increase tension after a fourth night of rioting in a Paris suburb in which tear gas was fired into a mosque. It was not clear who had fired the tear gas and Sarkozy, addressing police officers, vowed to find out what had happened. Youths hurled rocks and set fire to cars in the northeastern Clichy-sous-Bois suburb of the French capital, where many immigrants and poor families live in high-rise housing estates notorious for youth violence. French television said six police officers were hurt ---SNIP---

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bobigny; cristalsemaine; france; mosque; nicolassarkozy; paris; riots; sarkozy
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To: EternalHope
..Half of all current births in France are from Muslim parents..

I heard that 3 years ago it was one in three; has it gone to half so quickly .. ?

41 posted on 10/31/2005 8:29:33 AM PST by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"Considering the success of the Gaza Strip, maybe Condi could advise Paris to surrender the Eiffel Tower."

How long will t be before Muslims are given their own welfare province in France to 'govern' themselves on? With Dhimmi dues (read taxpayers money) from the rest of France of course.
Appeasement is the name of the game. The French are too proud to admit that all these years of sleeping with the most vile terrorist cult on the planet and allowing them to invade the country is what is causing these problems.

It can't be that it is the nature of Islam which causes uprizings and blood to flow wherever they go, they are just having troubles adjusting to western living.

Mon du, what's Paris to do? This will be fun to watch. It is also a preview of what happens here eventually.

42 posted on 10/31/2005 8:29:50 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Misplaced Texan

noticed that, always with the 'cowboy'. Interesting that want's to use 'repression' - probably has another meaning in french?


43 posted on 10/31/2005 8:30:37 AM PST by Murtyo
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To: MarkeyD

"I didn't know they even HAD poor people in France."

I don't think the French knew it. =]


44 posted on 10/31/2005 8:33:08 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Murtyo
A couple of pics:


45 posted on 10/31/2005 8:33:22 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Murtyo
As uncannily forecast in the 1975 edition of The Camp of the Saints. Author: Jean Raspail. The difference being that there was an armada of refugees from the Gange approaching. This sparked of the disolution of life as blase Parisians knew it.

Raspail, a calm and erudite scholar of human nature, was called a racist. He mentioned those groups and the sycophantic hangers on of whiteys. In the end, even they failed to survive by currying favour with the mob. Sadly coming to fruition.

It must be hell to be a policeman. Just hoping to do a job and go home and enjoy their family. This, coupled with fat burghers, sitting easy in a posh suburb, who blame every one, but the perpetrators.

46 posted on 10/31/2005 8:35:02 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: milwguy

"Their lax immigation policies, history of failed former colonies such as algeria, and generous welfare benefits have sown the seeds of their own destuction."

[Earth calling Bush... Earth calling Bush... Where you been, man?]


47 posted on 10/31/2005 8:36:16 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"Maybe some of the French could flee to NOLA. After all, the mayor doesn't want too many Mexicans there. A little French culture should satisfy him, you think? Maybe they could bring some French school buses with them, too, before the rioters burn them up."

What a great idea! The DemocRATS would be happy with that. I'm sure John Kerry's home state would be happy to take few as well. That sounds just like the immigration policies in Canada, the liberals import votes from foreign countries, concentrate them in Ontario and Q-bec ensuring that they will never loose an election.

48 posted on 10/31/2005 8:38:47 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Republic of Texas
I've seen several stories on this and this is the FIRST one that mentions Muslims or Mosque in the first paragraph. It's almost as if the press doesn't want to point out that the rioters are Muslims.

Yep. However the dynamics of this are similar to riots that have occurred in America: It started with protests due to a couple young men who fled from police and got electrocuted while hiding behind a transformer. (Darwin award nominations pending...) But it turns out the police were simply responding to a call and not "after" these or any specific youths.

In short, then, the "offense" committed by the police was simply entering the neighborhood in the first place. We are familiar with this same type of dynamic in this country, although it has been much reduced thanks to Rudy Guiliani's introduction years ago of "data driven" policing practices in New York and their widespread implementation elsewhere. IOW you increase your patrols, response rates and arrests (and lower your tolerance) in those areas where your crime rates are highest. If you do the opposite -- as the French have done for years and still often do -- and avoid patrolling or responding in certain hostile neighborhoods, then the result is only to increase the hostility. The thugs who ravage these neighborhoods develop a sense of entitlement in their lawless dominance and respond to "intrusions" of law enforcement in the manner witnessed here.

49 posted on 10/31/2005 8:40:04 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

He's been clearing checks from international companies which need cheap labor in the US. Also, this is what CFR wants him to do.


50 posted on 10/31/2005 8:40:16 AM PST by nikola
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To: Peter Libra; HiJinx; Spiff

"As uncannily forecast in the 1975 edition of The Camp of the Saints. Author: Jean Raspail... Raspail, a calm and erudite scholar of human nature, was called a racist."

Gee, that sounds familiar. Wasn't there a group of vigilantes who called themselves 'minutemen'? /sarcasm: I salute the Minute Men!


51 posted on 10/31/2005 8:41:18 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

:)


52 posted on 10/31/2005 8:41:25 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Forte Runningrock

Oh yeah. FrankenSkerry. He could offer his Swiftboat Services. He'll kill innocent people in a heart beat, right? Shoot little kids in the back? Burn down villages? Send him to Paris. Teargas, hxll! Kerry knows what to do.


53 posted on 10/31/2005 8:44:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Stultis

These idiots will continue to ignore the real enemy until it is their head on the chopping block. When referring to Muslims, that is not a metaphorical reference either.


54 posted on 10/31/2005 8:44:54 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Murtyo

ping


55 posted on 10/31/2005 8:55:26 AM PST by ocr1
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To: Murtyo
Don't send tear gas into the mosque next time. That's totally inappropriate to use chemicals on one of their holy sites.

Next time, send NAPALM

56 posted on 10/31/2005 8:58:25 AM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: Republic of Texas

Just watch, these riots will end, and shortly after France will go soft on the Iranian nuclear problem. As others have mentioned, France is already an Islamic state, they just don't know it yet. They are living in a state of Dhimmitude denial. Bat'Yor warned of this years ago, but nobody listened. France has tossed away it's culture, it's Christian herritage, and made room for the cult of death to fill the vaccum. Same thing we are doing here.

With 12 million Muslims in America, and growing daily, they could take over a state like Michigan. Every second person born in Michigan is named Muhammad. In Dearborn, the call to prayer is part of daily life.


57 posted on 10/31/2005 9:02:03 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Republic of Texas

your right they were definitely hiding it but if it was catholics,protestants or jews the headline would of made note of it


58 posted on 10/31/2005 9:07:21 AM PST by italianquaker (Bush Derangement syndrome coming to a theatre near you)
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To: MrNatural
I heard that 3 years ago it was one in three; has it gone to half so quickly .. ?

Apparently so.

Although the French media are much too PC to bring up the topic of their own impending demise, the French people themselves know what is going on.

Some good friends of ours are from France (naturalized U.S. citizens). They just returned from a visit with their relatives and had some really sad stories to tell. The French leadership is unable to face reality. The "man on the street" in France can see reality, but has no idea how to fight back. My friends' relatives expressed a feeling of hopelessness, and think the battle has already been lost.

Many people in France really hate us. Even though my friends speak French fluently, they are obviously American. They had many insults directed their way, in French. The assumption was that Americans would not know they had been insulted. (Sometimes they replied, in French, and the person delivering the insult would generally express embarrassment.)

Needless to say, my friends were quite saddened by their visit.

59 posted on 10/31/2005 9:16:51 AM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope

They saw the future of Europe, and America if we are not careful.


60 posted on 10/31/2005 9:20:37 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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