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Posted on 10/31/2005 5:56:16 AM PST by Inge_CAV
Teacher dies from beating Oct 30, 2005, 07:44 PM
WAFF 48 News has learned the teacher who was brutally beaten at Valley school has died.
The attack happened Wednesday inside the Lawrence County Family Education building in Moulton.
Doctors say Judy Jester's condition worsened and she never regained consciousness.
She died Sunday afternoon at Huntsville Hospital.
Jester was a first grade teacher at Hatton Elementary School.
She was found bleeding and unconscious inside the Lawrence County Family Education building in Moulton Wednesday night.
Investigators say the she had been beaten several times in the head and face.
Jester suffered a fractured skull and a brain stroke.
A 15-year old is accused of attacking her.
The unidentified teenager is being held at a detention center in Lauderdale County.
Police believe robbery may have been the motive behind the beating.
The teenager faces robbery, burglary and attempted murder charges, but now those charges are expected to be upgraded.
The teenager could be charged as an adult.
WAFF 48 News will continue to follow this story and will bring you new details as we get them.
Actually most black crime is black-on-black crime.
Per capita black on white crime is much higher statisically than white on black crime - go to the FBI statistics.
"Thought cannot be a crime, and the idea that a crime is "worse" because of a particular type of thought is silly."
In a world governed by rational adults yes - but we have RINOs and liberals running things. The only way for the pendulum to swing back to reality is if we go on the offensive. Blacks commit many race crimes but are never indicted for it. We need expose the truth about who is committing the crime.
Many blacks DO hate whites, just like many whites DO feel contempt and disdain for blacks. Whites think blacks "blame" them for their problems (some do!), and blacks think whites do not realize or acknowledge that simply being born white gives you an advantage (only an idiot would deny this).
It is unfortunate that black folks have been used by leftists and race hucksters as pawns, and it is unfortunate that black people feel like rich whites don't give a damn. I do know that there are LOTS of fine black people whose dreams and ambitions are like yours and mine. They want a better life, a stable marriage, a vacation once a year, and prospects for a good future for their kids.
The fact that some people DO manipulate the racial issue is no excuse for those of us who are white to stand up and screech "IT'S MY TURN NOW!" when some sorryass black punk kills a white teacher. If you want to bitch about when THEY play the race card, don't play it yourself.
They tell you "Although slightly less true now than before, most murders are intraracial"
From 1976 to 2002 --
* 86% of white victims were killed by whites
* 94% of black victims were killed by blacks
HINT: you look stupid when you make up statistics and get caught doing it.
"blacks think whites do not realize or acknowledge that simply being born white gives you an advantage (only an idiot would deny this)."
Im the idiot then. This is BS plain and simple. People today bend over backwards to give blacks more chances then anyone else. Every govt. program, every University, every business. They all fight for qualified (and many times unqualified) blacks. Your stereotypical response to this claims smacks of racism and white guilt. None of which I have. At the same time I feel all should be treated equally.
Your response does not fly with election results and statistical evidence. 80% of all Blacks think OJ was innocent vs 25% of all whites. 90% of all blacks vote democrat. Violent black crime regardless of the race of the victim is 5-6 times that of whites.
Lets not try to candy coat it. It is what it is and until we are ready to speak about these issues honestly, claiming that blacks have less of an advantage is without merit and is all hyperbole.
The fact that some do use the race issue is exactly why we need to turn it around. Blacks and liberals are not the harbingers of equality and civil rights. I would argure that conservative principles is the true civil rights mantra - all are considered equal. Until we start to point the finger and expose and humilate them for the racists that they are then it is not going to change. To act like we should ignore their accusations, that we are above it all, paints us as country club republicans, elitists one and all.
No I mean like this you idiot:
2003 statistics
501 black on white crimes (3603 total white victims)
vs.
226 white on black crimes (3147 total black victims)
Blacks make up approximately 16% of the population. If you normalize the data then you will see a huge prevalence of b on w crime.
Whos the idiot again? chronic_loser is a great name BTW.
BTW here is the link
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_03/pdf/toc03.pdf
How would you explain their exceedingly high incidence of violent crime, especially against members outside their race?
This is factually incorrect, as the vast majority of black crime is black on black crime, as I posted here:
Actually most black crime is black-on-black crime.
You responded that blacks commit more crimes against whites than whites do against blacks. I took this as an argument. I probably should not have done so, as it is an irrelevancy and does not support your original statement at all.
The fact is that blacks are both the perpetrators and the victims of the vast majority of violent crimes in the US. Since they commit crimes at a ratio of over 6:1 to whites, it makes sense that white VICTIMS of crimes would suffer more at the hands of blacks than blacks do at the hands of whites. Again, this is a statistical irrelevancy to your original statement.
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SSDD on this thread as well...
Teacher should have been carrying. Then we just have a dead attacker and no victim.
I wish I could psychoanalyze over a tcp/ip stack....... anyway..... The "advantages" a white guy has have more to do with being able to conduct one's self professionally, knowing how to assert yourself without appearing to be some ghetto punkass hoodlum, business etiquette, knowing what it means to be a man (especially how to be a man in relation to women and other men)....., largely consisting of skills I learned from my father. My wife taught for a good while in an inner city school, and the lack of knowledge these kids had of things you and I would consider simple activities of daily living were abysmal. They had no idea how to write a check, much less balance a checkbook. They had no idea how to confront without a melee occurring. They had no idea how to conduct themselves on an interview (or how to GET a job interview!). That is what I mean by "disadvantaged."
There is simply no way any amount of government programs, preferential hiring, or affirmative action can make up for this. I don't feel "guilty" when I say this, as I believe that at the core, this is a wonderful, free country that allows people who are motivated and driven to achieve far beyond any "restrictions" their race, iq, cultural background, or religion may hand them. Then again, I believe it is silly to claim that those restrictions do not exist. I just think they can be transcended, and that black folks who ARE trying hard appreciate it when you notice.
yeah.
Since it is the sole charge of the SCOTUS to uphold, interpret and define the Constitution of the United States, what plausible reason could there be to "consider" or "consult", as you so deftly put it, laws and/or statutes of foreign entities?
This nation and it's laws have been in existence for well over 200 years. We are the world's foremost repository of constitutional law for representative republican democracies. Additionally, we are the world's most incarcerated nation.
Given that, why would we reference these other nations for a definition of what is "cruel and unusual"?
The very fact that the Court felt the need to do this dramatically points up it's current shortcomings.
Yours is a difference without distinction.
CA....
When defining "cruel and unusual" it is appropriate to look at what is "usual" hence looking at foreign laws is appropriate.
And if you believe justices never considered or consulted foreign law in other rulings I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. However, no rulings have been "based" upon foreign law.
If you cannot see the difference between "consulted" and "based" then you need a good dictionary and some language lessons. There is a HUGE difference which ideology cannot overcome.
The minute you have a threat in a school...you eliminate it. If you sit there and tolerate it...it grows. Jerk the kid up and bring into the parents living room. Give the parents a week to instruct the kid on behavior...after that...bring the kid into a juvenile facility and let them get a taste of being an adult there. I wouldn't waste a minute of a teacher's time with kid's like this.
Antonin Scalia strongly disagrees with you.
I strongly agree with him.
From my reading of the Constitution and its peripheral related writings, I gather the Founders would agree with me.
where does that leave you?
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I wrote too quickly in stating the statistical evidence for crimes outside their race. I was only pointing out the fact that when you normalize the data the violent crime rate against whites is much higher than that of whites against blacks, substantially so and I dont believe that it can be justified by crime rate alone.
Im glad you didnt go nuclear on me, thanks for bringing it back to a somewhat rational discussion.
"The "advantages" a white guy has have more to do with being able to conduct one's self professionally, knowing how to assert yourself without appearing to be some ghetto punkass hoodlum, business etiquette, knowing what it means to be a man (especially how to be a man in relation to women and other men)....., largely consisting of skills I learned from my father."
I know the point your trying to make, but it doesnt fly - blacks are not being held accountable for their actions - instead the frivolous use of the term "white advantage" is used as a crutch for their lack of self control and responsibility. I believe the use of the term only incites more unfounded white guilt and racial hate.
I truly believe that what is needed here is tough love - no more crutches for a population that refuses to help themselves. We have allowed our emotion and not our common sense guide us on trying to improve race relations and the dems have taken advantage of that - trying to create racial hate and tension. At least Bill Cosby is trying to start black Americans into accepting responsibility for their behavior and condition. Not one other race in America is entitled to or expects such handouts. We must expect and encourage black Americans to succeed on merit and be vigilant in our respect of the law that no one shall be discriminated against or preferred above another. That will only happen if we fight against the libs and RINOs in their predetermining that blacks are "disadvantage" based on their skin color.
One more point - who is responsible for you and who do you blame when you fail? What about the kids your wife taught?
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