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The New Threats from Iran are Serious - VANITY
Vanity ^ | 10-30-2005 | EternalHope

Posted on 10/30/2005 2:42:14 PM PST by EternalHope

IRAN should be the top story in the U.S. right NOW. And the implications of their current behavior, combined with other factors, should be a top concern right NOW.

In short: For those Muslims who believe in certain prophecies, something must happen very soon or conditions will not be right for hundreds of years.

A. Threats from Iran

Not only has the "President" of Iran explicitly threatened to wipe Israel off the map, he has threatened the destruction of the "Anglo-Saxon empire" first.

I urge all Freepers to check out this thread:
Iran threat
Be sure to check the graphics created by the Iranian government in conjunction with the speach given by the President of Iran.

In the last few days Iran has:
1. Threatened the destruction of the U.S. and Britain.
2. Threatened to wipe Israel off the map.
(NOTE: Iran now claims the threats to Israel were "nothing new", and that these threats merely repeat words of the last 27 years.)
3. Fired its ambassadors to Britain, France, and Germany for being insufficiently supportive of the above threats.
4. Recalled 18 other ambassadors (a common step taken prior to starting a war).
5. Initiated widespread street demonstrations calling for death to America, burned the American flag in front of their President, etc.

This is happening NOW for a reason. What is that reason?

B. The Night of Power

Many Muslims believe the "Night of Power" was either Saturday night or will be tonight (Sunday night), depending on what part of the world you live in and your interpretation of how to time the start of Ramadan. Some Muslims believe the exact night cannot be known, others believe it is the night between the 26th and 27th day of Ramadan. Regardless, this is their most "holy" time.

No attack is likely during the time Muslims are supposed to be praying. However, Allah is supposed to be most favorably disposed towards their prayers during this night, and they truly believe planned mass murders are more likely to find favor with Allah if they have prayed for them all night during this particular night.

A successful attack shortly after the "Night of Power" would be considered by many Muslims as a sign of Allah's approval.

C. Islamic (Shiite) prophecy.

An Islamic "prophecy" believed by the Shiites (but not by all Muslims) predicts big things for a certain Ramadan in the future, and this particular Ramadan might be a fit (not a perfect fit, but perhaps close enough).

This particular Ramadan had two eclipses, one of the moon and one of the sun. The first eclipse was visible on the first day of Ramadan in part Saudi Arabia, but was not a full eclipse, and was not visible in all Muslim lands.

NOTE: Ramadan did not start on the same day in all Muslim lands. Hence, for much of the world, THIS Ramadan did not have two eclipses. For instance, Ramadan did not start in the U.S. until a day AFTER it started in Saudi Arabia. For this reason, including the first eclipse in this year's Ramadan is controversial. However, for some Muslims, the starting day in Saudi Arabia is what would count for purposes of this prophecy.

Why do the above eclipses matter? Because the Shiites have a prophecy saying the Mahdi will be revealed in a year with a Ramadan that includes two eclipses.

NOTE: THIS Ramadan is the last Ramadan in our lifetimes, or even in the lifetimes of our grandchildren, that will have features close to those needed to comply with this prophecy. The details of this particular prophecy are NOT generally accepted by Sunnis, but ARE accepted by the Shiites (Iran is Shiite).

D. Description of the Mahdi.

As for the Mahdi himself, some Muslims believe the Mahdi will have a high forehead, a prominent nose, and a mole on his face. All of these are obvious facial features of Bin Laden.

The Mahdi will be descended from Mohammed. Osama has now taken to signing his communications as "Osama bin Mohammed bin Laden. In other words, Osama is now claiming to be descended from Mohammed.

E. Attack on Nalchick

A large attack on the Russian city of Nalchick was launched earlier in October of this year. Fortunately, the attack was launched before the attackers were quite ready. Apparently, the Russians captured two of the conspirators and the rest of the terrorists decided their best chance was to launch the attack early.

According to official announcements from the Russian military, the attack was planned to occur about two weeks later than it actually did (i.e., about NOW). It was planned to include 700 attackers, but the actual attack only included 130. Part of the plan was to capture the local airport, and then fly captured planes into Russian dams and nuclear power plants.

The planned attack on Nalchick was huge. It was intended to bring Russia to its knees, and it might well have done so if all the elements in the plot had succeeded. If it had happened on the original timetable, it would be happening around now.

To sum up:
A. Iran has just issued blood curdling threats against the U.S. and Israel, recalled or fired many ambassadors, and launched rabid street demonstrations against the U.S. and Israel.
B. The Night of Power (Saturday night or Sunday night, depending on where you are) is the best night to ask Allah for things, such as blessings for a terrorist attack.
C. Islamic prophecy for some Muslims (not all), says THIS Ramadan is particularly likely to be the one that ushers in the year the Mahdi is revealed.
D. Bin Laden fits the physical description they are looking for, and has recently started to claim the needed descent from Mohammed.
E. The attack on the Russian city of Nalchick was actually intended to occur about NOW, which could easily mean it was supposed to occur AFTER the Night of Power. This was a HUGE attack which had the potential to severely cripple Russia.

Conclusion

It seems to me that the Islamonazis in Iran HAVE to make their move this year if they wish their own prophecies to be fulfilled in their lifetimes. Other interpretations of their actions are possible (they could just be crazy), but their recent actions are consistent with plans for an eminent attack.

It seems quite likely that the attack in Russia was timed to occur AFTER this year's Night of Power, but had to be launched early due to good/lucky work by Russian intel. If a MAJOR attack was planned in Russia for this time period, it is quite possible that MAJOR attacks are planned elsewhere as well.

All in all, it seems to me that the next week has a very high risk of major terrorist attacks. Perhaps even the long threatened big event.

I do not know enough about Islam to know what specific day they think Allah would be most likely to be pleased by mass murder, but I doubt that it will be today (Sunday).

My guess is that the Night of Power needs to be over everywhere before they attack. That could mean they attack as early as Monday, October 31st, if the attackers believe the Night of Power will be over by the end of the 27th day of Ramadan.

I have expected a major attack many times in the past and obviously been wrong every time. However, I am personally convinced that they do, in fact, have the ability to attack. Why they have not done so I do not know. Perhaps they have tried, several times, and we foiled each plot (let's hope). Or perhaps they were waiting for what they consider the best time.

The scope and intended timing of the Nalchick attack, plus the prophecies believed by at least some Muslims (such as the Iranians), plus the recent threats and behavior of Iran, have convinced me that we are facing a much higher chance of attack in the near future.


TOPICS: War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: iran; islam; ramadan; terror; terrorism
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Some of you may feel a need to adjust your tinfoil, or even add an extra layer. However, this is actually nothing more than a synthesis of recent news.

If you feel, as I do, that these psychos really want to kill us, and that they really do have the means to attack, then it makes sense to pay attention to what they do and say. It also makes sense to pay attention to what they believe, how that might impact what they do, and when.

1 posted on 10/30/2005 2:42:15 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: EternalHope

You'll never hear about it in the MSM newscasts. Doesn't fit their agenda you know.AWB


2 posted on 10/30/2005 2:43:37 PM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: EternalHope
The philosophy of a war with Iran should be different that Iraq. Rather than assuming the liability of repairing/replacing all that is destroyed, let the Iranians clean it up for themselves. It will take some time and effort and keep them out of other affairs.

If further threats emanate from Iran; bomb the hell out of them again. And, again, let them clean up the mess with their resources. Sooner or later, they will get the idea.

Not one allied life need be lost with the technology we have.

3 posted on 10/30/2005 2:50:05 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (Charter Member of the VRWC.)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother
<<>> every day of the year is their 'holy time'. But with a religion that urges and sponsors terrorism and atrocities , our 'religion' should be to WIPE THEM OUT, every day of the year!
4 posted on 10/30/2005 2:50:59 PM PST by Jazzman1
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To: EternalHope

How many 'boy scouts' are left? Not many anymore.

"BE PREPARED".


5 posted on 10/30/2005 2:57:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: Jazzman1

we got to stop fighting wars n accordance with the enemy's religious holidays.


6 posted on 10/30/2005 2:59:11 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: EternalHope
Yep, there are some Iranians announcing their need to be killed lately, let's not disappoint them.
7 posted on 10/30/2005 3:01:02 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
oe Bfstplk (Charter Member of the VRWC.)

When did you get your card?

8 posted on 10/30/2005 3:02:06 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: EternalHope

Excellent synopsis of the current state of affairs Eternal Hope. Thanks.


9 posted on 10/30/2005 3:05:24 PM PST by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: EternalHope

The timing of this Iran crap is quite convenient given the growing lack of support for our middle east war.


10 posted on 10/30/2005 3:06:20 PM PST by floridarocks
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To: EternalHope
We are in a good strategic situation regarding Iran.

We are in Iraq and in Afghanistan. We essentially have Iran surrounded.

11 posted on 10/30/2005 3:13:47 PM PST by FReepaholic (Taglines? We don't need no stinking taglines.)
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To: EternalHope

The Islamonazis are all so crazy that rational thought just doesn't apply to them.


12 posted on 10/30/2005 3:18:06 PM PST by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: EternalHope; Repub4bush; gardencatz; Misty Memory; feefee

Thanks for a well thought out post, in fact the best vanity I've read in quite a while. It certainly is an unsettling string of events and possible events.


13 posted on 10/30/2005 3:20:46 PM PST by KJC1
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To: EternalHope

I dunno. Sounds like pure bluster and BS. What are these dipsh*ts gonna do??? Throw pita bread at us???


14 posted on 10/30/2005 3:29:12 PM PST by msf92497 (The most dangerous place to be is in a "mothers" womb.)
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To: EternalHope
If these guys were really dangerous they would do something and stop yelling at everybody. If they touch Israel, Iran is toast. Even the dense Mullahs know this. Israel has delivery systems, Arrow and the Neutron Bomb which is far more lethal than an atomic bomb.

The only planes in Iran are old F16 leftovers from the days of the Shah. This is just hot rhetoric for internal Iranian consumption.
15 posted on 10/30/2005 3:58:07 PM PST by seppel
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To: EternalHope
I read all the pieces of your post with unease...especially the part about Iran recalling its ambassadors...and was reminded of the Mahdi prophecies.

I would add that for the Iranian President to say things about wiping Israel off the map at this time, and then to reaffirm it repeatedly and call up public demonstrations is disturbing as well. In fact, if Iran were having thoughts of doing something soon, the obviously smart and tactical thing to do would be to assure everyone that they have no such intention.

Especially at the exact time that much of the world, even the UN and Europe, are desperately hoping that Iran will be good and appear to be benign so that they won't have to 'do anything' about the Iranian nuke sites, which would certainly stir up a hornet's nest and no one wants to do that. To blurt out threats now is almost a guarantee that Israel or someone else will 'do something' about them.

Either the Iranians have no concept of strategy and deception, or they know that someone is about to 'do something'. Or, there is the small possibility that they are just stupid and blathering and impotent, and did I mention stupid?

16 posted on 10/30/2005 4:08:12 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender
Either the Iranians have no concept of strategy and deception, or they know that someone is about to 'do something'. Or, there is the small possibility that they are just stupid and blathering and impotent, and did I mention stupid?

They may be stupid, but that's not something I really want to depend on.

17 posted on 10/30/2005 4:17:24 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: KJC1

Thanks for the kind words.


18 posted on 10/30/2005 4:18:28 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: seppel

Even though Iran may not have much to fight a big war with, the acts of terrorists could lead to much worse.

Instead of a United America and Coalition nations, we could have.....

Multiple terrorist bombings, causing widespread fear, panic, grief and death.

Release of toxic agents.

An America split and weak, with the MSM demanding Bush step down.

An America taken back over by Organized crime.

It wouldn't take much for the MSM to use such acts to foster fear in those who think the government is a god who is supposed to change their diapers.

Without the direction and leadership of a strong man like President Bush, the "pirate" nations will be free to rape, pillage, and plunder again.

The UN will become the dominating ruling body with good ole' Bill heading it until he dies.

FEAR. F**k Everything And Run.


19 posted on 10/30/2005 4:21:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
If further threats emanate from Iran; bomb the hell out of them again. And, again, let them clean up the mess with their resources. Sooner or later, they will get the idea. Not one allied life need be lost with the technology we have.

That's how Clinton fought -- lots of innocents killed but no political fallout for him. It's the cowards way... Also, the Iranian people are different from the thugs that oppress them.

20 posted on 10/30/2005 4:29:38 PM PST by GOPJ (Is every democrat a bent kneed Monica?)
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