Posted on 10/30/2005 8:40:57 AM PST by smoothsailing
Didn't you know that being attractive and wealthy are crimes? /sarc.
I don't think it was ever supposed to be a crime to lie... unless you were under oath.
And if they insist you DO talk to them as if you were under oath, you should always have 5th amendment protection.
This whole mess seemed to me to be somehow a way of getting around the fifth amendment.
Doesn't grand jury testimony involve taking the Oath? I thought it did. I heard that right to counsel does not apply, but I thought one could still take the Fifth unless the prosecutor gave a witness immunity. A prosecutor can't compel testimony in a grand jury room that he will use against the witness in open court - that's insane.
Heck, if nothing else, maybe this country will finally wake up to the abuses of the Grand Jury system. Too often, we think that only criminals get charged, and there's no sympathy for anyone ground under the heel of the District Attorneys, Attorneys General or the Justice Department.
Maybe now we see why the law is stacked on the side of the accused - it's too easy to politicize "justice." Criminals should be punished, but the state must have an extremely high burden to meet before the accused is found guilty.
Katie Bar The Door!
Fitz & pals are wrecking the legal system in order to carve notches on their resumes.
That's it, in a nutshell. The MSM is part and parcel of this wrecking, because they are willing to ignore the destruction of the law in order to pimp their political agenda.
An effective and unbiased media would be trumpeting the true miscarriage of justice instead of burying it.
I agree. An even better citzen prcedure would be "Talk to my attorney.".
Actually, it is still possible to forget. Russert, after all, was the one who forgot the substance of a phone conversation with Libby - until the information revealed by his own notes indicated that he had indeed discussed what Libby said they had discussed. He wasn't indicted for lying to a GJ, however; so why, if his oversight was considered mere forgetfulness, should Libby's be treated any differently, even if there are tapes? Consider this a rhetorical question...
They probably answered with things like "To the best if my knowleged or as I can best remember". I'm sure Libby never claimed to be giving an exact yes or no, with human memories, how could he?
And with no crime, how could "Fitz the Hack" continue this investigation past the first few weeks?
I read the same thing into it that you did. It was an explanation of what he had said, not an attempt to mislead the GJ about his words. Unless there are other statements involved, it seems a real stretch to make this the basis for any kind of charge at all.
Ooops, I forgot. Eat the rich! Especially those who have started out in a modest Polish working class neighborhood in Joisey and worked their way into multi-millionairehood. The most dangerous kind!
I noticed that confidence too. If Russert recorded the conversation, the Administration had better find out just what the deal is with NBC allowing reporters to secretly record conversations.
I wouldn't continue talking to any reporter who I knew had recorded me without my permission, regardless of whether it was legal. Legality and common decency are not the same thing.
Patrick is just making sure that if the Dems get in he gets named to the SC.
So the prosecutor is saying because he can't prove there was a crime he is charging someone with preventing him from proving there was a crime.
Talk about blaming someone else.
Seems to me the only proper answer to a grand jury is a 5th amendment stateemt to all questions.
Motive? Trying to discredit Wilson. Sharing classified information about CIA personnel for political gain is an ugly thing to do.
Sorry to say this, but Scooter Libby got caught playing hardball politics too close (and possibnly over) the line. Nothing new about this whatsoever. Some get busted, and most do not; in any case, if you get caught, you have to be prepared to take your lumps.
I seriously doubt if Scooter Libby will ever see the inside of a jail cell, even if (and that is a very big IF) he is ever convicted of anything. I would support a Presidential Pardon for Libby in January '09...
Freep this poll.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512005/posts
They ought to take some of their own advice.
Well, did he?
Gee, don't you think we should at least give Scooter his day in court, a presumption of innocence, all those pesky rights he's entitled to?
Freep a Seattle poll? Sheesh,get a grip.
Fitz is saying "it's Libby's fault that I failed".
I'd bet a dollar to a donut that Fitz was one whiney kid.
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