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What Scooter Libby And I Talked About
TIME Magazine ^ | 10/30/05 | Matt Cooper

Posted on 10/30/2005 4:13:47 AM PST by SE Mom

I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming. All morning I had been trying to reach I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby for a cover story about both President George W. Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium in Africa and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's controversial Op-Ed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; libby; mattcooper; plamegate
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To: MNJohnnie

wait for the multimillion dollar book.


21 posted on 10/30/2005 4:29:10 AM PST by avital2
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To: SE Mom

"I called Libby to see if he would grant a waiver for my testifying. The lawyers representing TIME Inc. and me, who supported my making that call, thought Libby might well do so. After all, he had granted a waiver to a Washington Post reporter, and Tim Russert of NBC had just avoided contempt by testifying about his end of his conversation with Libby. Most important, my exchange with Libby about Wilson had been short and, in my thinking and TIME Inc.'s, not especially provocative. "

Someone with something to hide would not have granted waivers to all these reporters.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 4:29:40 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to rape)
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To: SE Mom
Cooper: "I lay on my bed, naked, wet, smelling like chlorine, talking to Libby"

Miller: "I lay under the aspens, the sunshine filtered by their leaves, connected by their roots, talking to Libby".

I wonder what Russert will have to say?

23 posted on 10/30/2005 4:30:44 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

LOL! One shudders to think...


24 posted on 10/30/2005 4:33:11 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Actually, the Libby indictment makes it pretty clear that Fitzgerald thinks she WAS COVERT prior to this whole episode. The judgment that he hasn't made is whether anyone violated the IIPA by discussing her with reporters - that would require him to determine that people knowingly gave up classified information, which his investigation hasn't yet determined.


25 posted on 10/30/2005 4:35:00 AM PST by RightFighter
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To: shezza

ping-a-roo-ski


26 posted on 10/30/2005 4:35:06 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: RightFighter
The judgment that he hasn't made is whether anyone violated the IIPA by discussing her with reporters - that would require him to determine that people knowingly gave up classified information, which his investigation hasn't yet determined.

GJ expired on Friday. Investigation is over. Did he en panel a new one?

27 posted on 10/30/2005 4:37:08 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: RightFighter
Actually, the Libby indictment makes it pretty clear that Fitzgerald thinks she WAS COVERT prior to this whole episode.

AFAIK, he has only said her employment with the CIA was classified information, probably because he has the memo with the paragraph that she was a CIA employee marked secret. That doesn't mean she was covert.

28 posted on 10/30/2005 4:38:41 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: MNJohnnie

My GUESS is George Tenet


29 posted on 10/30/2005 4:39:16 AM PST by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: linkinpunk
It isn't the "Yeah, I've heard that too" part that has Libby in trouble, at least in Count Five (page 20). It's where he continues on saying "I was very clear to say reporters are telling us that because in my mind I still didn't know it as a fact. I thought I was – all I had was this information that was coming in from the reporters."
30 posted on 10/30/2005 4:39:19 AM PST by mikegi
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To: RightFighter
Actually, the Libby indictment makes it pretty clear that Fitzgerald thinks she WAS COVERT prior to this whole episode.

I do not see that in the indictment filed. Fitzgerald did not speak about it in his press conference. Where do you get your infomration?

I just think that it should have been the first order of business and provided to the public. If Valerie Plame was NOT a covert agent, this issue would have no publicity. It is the speculation that she is covert (based on the lying Joseph Wilson) that fuels the media fire.

31 posted on 10/30/2005 4:39:22 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: SE Mom; palmer
And this is supposed to be damaging to Libby?

EXACTLY- that is absurd, isn't it?

Libby is not being indicted for revealing anything about Plame. He is being indicted for lying about his conversations with reporters to both the FBI and the grand jury. The prosecutor evidently feels that these were intentional misstatements rather than being due to poor recollection.

From the indictment:

2. On or about October 14 and November 26, 2003, in the District of Columbia,

I. LEWIS LIBBY,
also known as “SCOOTER LIBBY,”

defendant herein, did knowingly and willfully make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement and representation in a matter within the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, an agency within the executive branch of the United States, in that the defendant, in response to questions posed to him by agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, stated that:

During a conversation with Matthew Cooper of Time magazine on July 12, 2003, LIBBY told Cooper that reporters were telling the administration that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, but LIBBY did not know if this was true.

3. As defendant LIBBY well knew when he made it, this statement was false in that: LIBBY did not advise Cooper on or about July 12, 2003 that reporters were telling the administration that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, nor did LIBBY advise him that LIBBY did not know whether this was true; rather, LIBBY confirmed for Cooper, without qualification, that LIBBY had heard that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA;

In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001(a)(2).

32 posted on 10/30/2005 4:42:48 AM PST by wideminded
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To: cody32127

This whole sordid mess is about the MSM. Come on Matt tell us it is all about the power of the press and what you guys think you can do and get away with in the process. Fitzgerald has his focus on the wrong people.


33 posted on 10/30/2005 4:43:05 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"As I was talking on the phone, Mandy comes in, smelling of chlorine. She sprawls beside me........"

LOL. You had pretty much the same reaction to Cooper's opening that I did.

34 posted on 10/30/2005 4:44:21 AM PST by Bahbah (Tony Schaffer is a hero)
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To: RightFighter
...Fitzgerald thinks she WAS COVERT...

I think he wants to give that impression but I doubt she was Covert. I believe just about everyone at the CIA has some type of classified status even desk jockeys. So pretty much anything the CIA lies about or sets up can not really be set straight by the record and Fitzgerald is playing it for all its worth.

35 posted on 10/30/2005 4:45:02 AM PST by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: palmer

Libby is a dumb bastid for trying to cultivate the press. They are a thankless group of lowlifes from whom one can expect no good. It is hoped that Bush's team has learned something from this -- but I doubt it, given the enormity of the egos involved.


36 posted on 10/30/2005 4:45:26 AM PST by gaspar
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To: mikegi

That's an interesting point- is it possible- at least in ref to the Cooper exchange that Libby was talking about whether Plame had sent Wilson to Niger...which in fact was part of what he was trying to discover, wasn't it? Does that make sense?


37 posted on 10/30/2005 4:45:37 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: SE Mom
Is it any wonder that the MSM reporters' memories are in sync, and that they are completely at odds with Libbey's memory? To the contrary. It is exactly what one would expect.

For some time now the MSM reporters have clearly had an agenda, one they have pursued with maniacal zeal. It is to "prove" the administration knowingly used falsified and doctored data about uranium from Niger. Their faith in this "truth" is complete and profound. All evidence is sifted, accepted, rejected, warped, twisted and reformed according to this powerful bias.

38 posted on 10/30/2005 4:46:23 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: wideminded
Amazing how accidental misstatements by a Repb are a crime while known false statements made for the purpose of subverting an investigation by a Dem are not. Guess we can call this the Clinton rule of American Politics.
39 posted on 10/30/2005 4:46:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: SE Mom

I used to hear these kind of exchanges in the schoolyard when I was 7 years old.


40 posted on 10/30/2005 4:46:42 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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