Posted on 10/29/2005 7:35:16 PM PDT by takbodan
PYONGYANG, North Korea -- In the center of the North Korean capital floats a commissioned vessel of the U.S. Navy. The USS Pueblo, a spy ship captured by the North in 1968, is moored on a bank of the Daedong River. Despite quiet U.S. moves in recent years to secure its return, the vessel still functions as tourist attraction, trophy and symbol of anti-American struggle.
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"The jackass who permitted the ship to leave in that condition worked across the desk from my dad at the Pentagon."
It must weigh hevily on his soul - we still have ships going out underarmed.
Oddly enough in that business, the men are the MOST expendable. They are easily replaced.
"I was all with Bucher...I just know what you are told."
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Did you read my post re the high line????
The guy who allowed it was promoted to captain. There were 3 stars in the office who could have intervened and did not.
The nearest Carrier wasn't anywhere near close enough to assist. It steamed at flank speed toward the area, but the Pueblo was already in a NK port, and the crew removed by the time the Carrier was on station.
"The guy who allowed it was promoted to captain. There were 3 stars in the office who could have intervened and did not."
To quote someone else on FR - "Just Damn"
That approach might work for one or two guys with the physical prowess to get to an extraction point and tolerate the "thrill" of being whipped off the ground by a passing aircraft. It is a non-sequitur when an entire ship's crew is captured.
Francis Gary Powers didn't follow the prescribed procedure when his U-2 was shotdown. It's easy to second guess another man's choices when you aren't the party in the hot seat.
The P3 crew that landed in China was a disgrace but were given medals. The aircraft commander is no longer in the Navy.
"The nearest Carrier wasn't anywhere near close enough to assist. It steamed at flank speed toward the area, but the Pueblo was already in a NK port, and the crew removed by the time the Carrier was on station."
Yeah - RGR - my memory is a bit fuzzy now days. But I still have a woodie over this incident.
It is a job that has to be done, there are horrible risks, nevertheless there are people ready to do it.
Yeah, why not blow up the ship? It would be easy.
ASA Vet was on duty in the SCIF when this went down. We all thought for sure we'd nuke North Korea. Off duty guys came to work on their own. For about 3 days we were running double crews.
The crew destroyed all the classified equipment before landing. The most important assets on the flight were the operators who recognized the voices, accents and communications of the monitored parties. Equipment can be replaced.
"Saving himself and the crew is not in the books. Nowhere.
The P3 crew that landed in China was a disgrace but were given medals. The aircraft commander is no longer in the Navy."
I vote for the pilot to fly me anywhere after what he accomplished. And I understand your position - I agree - however when TSHTF we tend to do human things for survival vs the book.
"It is a job that has to be done, there are horrible risks, nevertheless there are people ready to do it."
My God - and I bow down to each and every one and all - every day.
Reference for we? Which program?
Their devotion to duty is cheapened by those that "saved" themselves and their aircraft or ship.
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