[cynicom]

There were many that followed orders and were shot down over water, they were listed as missing on a routine TRAINING mission. No medals nothing. Not even acknowledgment of what they had done.

Their devotion to duty is cheapened by those that "saved" themselves and their aircraft or ship.

[Bobibutu]

"Their devotion to duty is cheapened by those that "saved" themselves and their aircraft or ship."

You are a hard line Patriot - we are blessed by your attitude and service ... I on the other hand have passed thru that stage - right or wrong - to value life above all else.

An Arab diplomat some years ago summed it up something like this - Wars may only be fought by warriors over 45 and then only with their mothers permission.

I understand what it is to have mission first - USN - '61-'63 VietNam '66-'70.

Maybe I have mellowed to much with age.