Posted on 10/29/2005 7:35:16 PM PDT by takbodan
PYONGYANG, North Korea -- In the center of the North Korean capital floats a commissioned vessel of the U.S. Navy. The USS Pueblo, a spy ship captured by the North in 1968, is moored on a bank of the Daedong River. Despite quiet U.S. moves in recent years to secure its return, the vessel still functions as tourist attraction, trophy and symbol of anti-American struggle.
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In the background, as is usual the military guaranteed armed help if for any reason it was needed. It was an empty promise..
Bucher made that plain time after time.
Not kidding at all
Launch a First Strike.
If any country needed a demonstration of precision aerial bombing it would be this one at this time.
In that business, the military makes a lot of promises. One rigid rule however is that the acft or ship NEVER fall into enemy hands.
"In the background, as is usual the military guaranteed armed help if for any reason it was needed. It was an empty promise.."
Yeah - the nearest Carrier had all planes on deck armed with nukes - Duh.
They need to sink it, we don't give up downed war planes. Send a anti-ship missile into it at midnite so we only kill north korean soldiers.
Let's trade them even-up for the Clinton lie-brary.
We should sink the ship. As I understand it the North Koreans beat our men and treated them shamefully.
"It's a bad sign that the Western intelligence experts who monitor North Korean ports and examine satellite images didn't notice that the Pueblo had moved. President Bush's "refusal to engage North Korea, as the Clinton administration had done, has already led the North to revive plutonium production. Mr. Bush's backup plan is to stop North Korean nuclear proliferation by intercepting nuclear materials as they leave the country - but that's wishful thinking. If we couldn't detect the transfer of a famous 176-foot ship, it's ludicrous to think we could stop the smuggling of a grapefruit-size chunk of plutonium."
Thanks for the link and pictures. Kristoff gives the impression the ship sailed to Pyongyang under while Bush was in power. It sailed in 1999 while clinton was in office.
The crew had only two poorly maintained 50 cal machine guns and their side arms to defend the ship. The jackass who permitted the ship to leave in that condition worked across the desk from my dad at the Pentagon.
"It's a bad sign that the Western intelligence experts who monitor North Korean ports and examine satellite images didn't notice that the Pueblo had moved. President Bush's "refusal to engage North Korea, as the Clinton administration had done, has already led the North to revive plutonium production. Mr. Bush's backup plan is to stop North Korean nuclear proliferation by intercepting nuclear materials as they leave the country - but that's wishful thinking. If we couldn't detect the transfer of a famous 176-foot ship, it's ludicrous to think we could stop the smuggling of a grapefruit-size chunk of plutonium."
Thanks for the link and pictures. Kristoff gives the impression the ship sailed to Pyongyang under while Bush was in power. It sailed in 1999 while clinton was in office.
I don't think our men had much of a choice. Air support wasn't scrambled in time. It was kind of a stark choice the North Koreans gave them.
Ah - we can get into a peeing match - but what for? It was a blunder that we learned from. Butcher passed away a few years ago - lived in North County San Diego - a good man.
I agree - never give up the ship - however when faced with what he was in real time - I cut him a lot of slack. I think he did the right thing and saved his crew.
We can build ships and aircraft - what does it take to replace a trained man or woman?
"It's a bad sign that the Western intelligence experts who monitor North Korean ports and examine satellite images didn't notice that the Pueblo had moved"
File under "lessons learned" and cross yur fingers.
I was all with Bucher...I just know what you are told.
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