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This is a direct result of Pres. Bush's behaving like an imbecile and refusing to fire all clinton political appointments, in all the cabinet offices and executive agencies, replacing them with his own loyal supporters.

Clinton was smarter than Bush, by far, I hate to say. Clinton knew exactly how to change the very nature of the government. I suspect Clinton was getting much expert technical advice from foreign agencies.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 2:10:55 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mark Felton; advance_copy
This is a direct result of Pres. Bush's behaving like an imbecile and refusing to fire all clinton political appointments, in all the cabinet offices and executive agencies, replacing them with his own loyal supporters

Amazing how even this gets turned into an excuse for a Bush bash.

6 posted on 10/29/2005 2:13:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ping for an interesting CIA thread.


10 posted on 10/29/2005 2:14:50 PM PDT by xJones (Dallas Rules!!!)
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To: Mark Felton
Clinton was smarter than Bush, by far, I hate to say. Clinton knew exactly how to change the very nature of the government. I suspect Clinton was getting much expert technical advice from foreign agencies.

This is just tunnel visionist!! The reason the MSM/dems are out of power is because of the childish, irresponsible way Clinton ran gov't!! If anything the Gov't got MORE conservative since '94.

You people that think everything should be rammed down the throat would choke in a heatbeat!! Bush may not be Wham-bam-thank-you-mam, but he continued the power hold for repubs for over 10 years now while picking up a bigger majority...All Clinton did was lose power! Can't you realize this REALITY!

26 posted on 10/29/2005 2:29:34 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Mark Felton

i wish i could disagree . really.


29 posted on 10/29/2005 2:32:37 PM PDT by fantom
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To: Mark Felton
"This is a direct result of Pres. Bush's behaving like an imbecile and refusing to fire all clinton political appointments, in all the cabinet offices and executive agencies, replacing them with his own loyal supporters. Clinton was smarter than Bush, by far, I hate to say. Clinton knew exactly how to change the very nature of the government. I suspect Clinton was getting much expert technical advice from foreign agencies."

You forgot your sarcasm tag.

President Clinton got **nothing** done in 8 years...he passed not a single one of his campaign promises. Not one.

In contrast, President Bush got his tax cuts, put Hussein in jail, got Syria out of Lebanon, banned partial birth abortion, deployed our national missile defenses, got Bill Prior and Janice Rogers Brown onto the federal bench, and in general has gotten everything that he's wanted.

GWB has Goss cleaning out the CIA. That will take time. Until then, the embedded leftists there are going to keep taking shots at him...but there will be fewer and fewer of them there as time goes on.

He couldn't have simply fired two thousand CIA agents in January of 2001...we would have been seen by our enemies as operating blind had he done that.

What President Bush is doing takes courage...and patience...rather than rashness.

43 posted on 10/29/2005 2:51:39 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mark Felton

Whoa...Clinton smarter? More devious? Sure. Willing to do anything, and I do mean anything, to get what he wants? Yep, that's Bill Clinton and he has that over President Bush. Bush is constrained by morality and rule of law, whereas Clinton operated as though there were no restrictions and surrounded himself with like minded operatives. But Clinton smarter? I don't think so.


49 posted on 10/29/2005 2:57:50 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Mark Felton

Agreed. GWB was trying to show them we mean them no harm.

It doesn't work with Leftists or Jihadis.


56 posted on 10/29/2005 3:04:17 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Mark Felton
This is a direct result of Pres. Bush's behaving like an imbecile and refusing to fire all clinton political appointments, in all the cabinet offices and executive agencies, replacing them with his own loyal supporters

Bingo! Bump

81 posted on 10/29/2005 3:41:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mark Felton

alot, if not most,of these people inside the structure are career people - not political appointees. they have to be rooted out systematically.


117 posted on 10/29/2005 5:38:11 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Mark Felton
I don't know if he was smarter b, but his management style was far different. Clinton was a micro-manager, obviously given his record on his agenda at times he was so busy pushing the buttons that at times he forgot to watch the instruments. Bush on the other hand is a big picture leader, he sets the vision and expects the people who are in his supporting cast ( many of whom are indeed smarter than he is in their given area of expertise, certainly that is to his credit not to his detriment) to get it done. Bush is very good at this, once he sets the vision he doesn't waiver or shift the goal post which is common with leaders in high profile positions.
120 posted on 10/29/2005 5:50:13 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Mark Felton
Clinton was smarter than Bush, by far, I hate to say. Clinton knew exactly how to change the very nature of the government.

Sometimes I think the entrenched bureaucrats are the ones that call the shots.

They provide the reports to the politicians and political appointees and if the right decisions are not made they subvert the orders or subvert the leaders.

The leaders come and go but the bureaucrats remain.

124 posted on 10/29/2005 6:00:59 PM PDT by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: Mark Felton

I agree. The Prez went overboard with the compassion theme. Compassion does not work in the real world...just in church maybe.

He should have fired every single one of the Clinton hires the day of his inauguration.


144 posted on 10/29/2005 7:45:40 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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