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Is Libby first to be indicted since Grant Admin?

Posted on 10/29/2005 6:25:49 AM PDT by Captain Culpepper

First post in a while, please forgive any posting errors.

I have repeatedly heard that Libby is the "first sitting WH official to be indicted since Grant." I then heard I believe an ABC radio report that he handed in his resignation "before the indictment was handed up".

I'm assuming that this is correct and the MSM has gotten this false story of "first sitting" official out there erroneously.

It seems that knowing an indictment was coming and hearing this "first since.." talk from the MSM coming for days the Libby resignation would have come before the indictment to deny the MSM this particular pound of flesh.

Does anyone know the actual facts? Thanks!


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1 posted on 10/29/2005 6:25:49 AM PDT by Captain Culpepper
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To: Captain Culpepper

Aside from the house indictment of Clinton.


2 posted on 10/29/2005 6:27:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Captain Culpepper

If he handed in his resignation before the indictment was issued, then he wasn't a "sitting official" was he?


3 posted on 10/29/2005 6:28:44 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Captain Culpepper

A complete lie, Clintoon had (2)cabinet members indicted, Caspar Weinberger was indicted in Reagans administration just to name a few


4 posted on 10/29/2005 6:29:11 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Captain Culpepper

I'm not sure if this is comparable: Web Hubbel? Then there's Mr. Willey, who reportedly shot himself with a shotgun the day that Clinton groped his wife, Kathleen Willey. He was on the verge of indictment, if I remember correctly, which was why she was seeking work that day.


5 posted on 10/29/2005 6:30:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: Captain Culpepper

Spiro T. Agnew?
If memory serve me right, he was the sitting Vice President when he was indicted. But then again, my memory is getting more like other parts of me. FAULTY!


6 posted on 10/29/2005 6:31:23 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: Captain Culpepper

Nussbaum also ended up in prison. He was working for the Clintons at some kind of legal capacity.


7 posted on 10/29/2005 6:31:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: traderrob6

You don't happen to remember which Clinton cabnet members? I'm sure the circles I travel in will be abuzz with "first sitting WH Official" and I'd love to have the specifics to counter it.


8 posted on 10/29/2005 6:32:19 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: traderrob6
A complete lie, Clintoon had (2)cabinet members indicted, Caspar Weinberger was indicted in Reagans administration just to name a few

Clinton's resigned before their indictments. Reagan had a cabinet member indicted while still in office (Raymond Donovan).

9 posted on 10/29/2005 6:32:34 AM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Captain Culpepper

There was a thread on this yesterday but I didn't mark it...


10 posted on 10/29/2005 6:33:33 AM PDT by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: traderrob6
Clintoon had (2)cabinet members indicted,

Henry Cisneros? And......forgot the other one.

11 posted on 10/29/2005 6:33:38 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: cripplecreek

"Aside from the house indictment of Clinton."

Precisely. Impeachment = indictment.


12 posted on 10/29/2005 6:34:31 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Mike Espy or something like that ...

Was Ron Brown indicted or under investigation when his plane "crashed?"


13 posted on 10/29/2005 6:37:07 AM PDT by tarzantheapeman (Hey DUers, I can smell you (take a shower))
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To: Captain Culpepper
I have repeatedly heard that Libby is the "first sitting WH official to be indicted since Grant." I then heard I believe an ABC radio report that he handed in his resignation "before the indictment was handed up".

Even if you play the word game by adding "sitting" --- Espy & Cisernos & Hubble (I think) had all resigned before their indictments -- Ray Donovan was indicted while a sitting cabinet member.

14 posted on 10/29/2005 6:37:35 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Paine in the Neck

Timmy forgot the "Big Indictment (Impeachment?) Don't forget, Clinton calls it a "badge of honor".


15 posted on 10/29/2005 6:37:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: tarzantheapeman

Brown was under investigation.


16 posted on 10/29/2005 6:38:41 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Paine in the Neck

Contrary to the liberal fantasy, Clinton WAS impeached, Nixon was NOT.

I see that the Detroit free press at least calls the Clinton indictment by it's true name. The story is about Libby but it mentions the "Clinton indictment".

http://www.freep.com/voices/editorials/eindict29e_20051029.htm


17 posted on 10/29/2005 6:39:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Captain Culpepper
The First Rapist was indicted.
The Senate did not find him guilty.
It is a good thing, to know the minimal definitions of good citizenship.

As someone on the news put it last night, indictment is sometimes a baseless, gratuitous political move; they can indict a ham sandwich...

18 posted on 10/29/2005 6:40:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Captain Culpepper

Russert: First Indictment of a White House Official in 130 Years
Posted by Michael M. Bates on October 28, 2005 - 18:50.
After weeks of joyous anticipation by many in the media, a Bush Administration official, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, was today indicted by a federal grand jury. NBC's Washington bureau chief Tim Russert wanted to emphasize the event's importance, telling his MSNBC audience: "This is significant, it's the first time in 130 years a White House official has been indicted."

Not according to MSNBC's own Web site. It's "Fact File: White House Staff Indictments" provides a "brief
history of indictments in recent administrations." Going back only into the mid-1970s, it identifies eight people, including a Reagan Cabinet member and two Clinton Cabinet members, who were indicted on various charges. These included conspiracy, obstruction, embezzlement, illegal stock trading, lying to the FBI and grand larceny. One Clinton official was indicted on 39 corruption counts related to acceptance of gifts from a company he was responsible for regulating.

Mr. Libby, by contrast, was indicted on five counts for obstructing justice, perjury and making false statements in an investigation. Gee, could it be this story isn't as huge as it's been portrayed?



http://newsbusters.org/node/2557


19 posted on 10/29/2005 6:42:01 AM PDT by petercooper (The Republican Party: We Suck Less.)
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To: not_apathetic_anymore

Brown and Espy


20 posted on 10/29/2005 6:43:03 AM PDT by traderrob6
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